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Who do you dis more, Remco or Roglic?

  • Remco

    Votes: 10 15.9%

  • Roglic

    Votes: 8 12.7%

  • In this namby pamby PC world, I love both riders, but I hope Remco pummels the guts out of Roglic.

    Votes: 10 15.9%

  • I'm cheering for Roglic, something about that ski background and the smile just touches me.

    Votes: 23 36.5%

  • Vin(g)o option: irrelevant, bring on the tour

    Votes: 10 15.9%

  • Because of fundamentalist fanaticism, I’m rooting for Caruso

    Votes: 2 3.2%
  • Total voters
    63
  • Poll closed .
SHAD0W93

SHAD0W93

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Netserk said:
Rogla has suffered more from injuries, crashes and covid with relation to those seven one-week stage races.
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Not in the first 4 years which are the only fair and comparable thing we can do. Those happened 5th year and beyond. Otherwise without the crash and Covid taking out years 2 and 3 for Evenepoel they could theoretically be on the same trajectory.
 
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SHAD0W93 said:
Not in the first 4 years which are the only fair and comparable thing we can do. Those happened 5th year and beyond. Otherwise without the crash and Covid taking out years 2 and 3 for Evenepoel they could theoretically be on the same trajectory.
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Please line out how exactly Evenepoel was robbed of victories in those seven races by misfortune. What was his program for 2020 before the pandemic? I don't think he was even planned to start any of those seven races.

And Rogla was hit by misfortune before his 5th year that affected his record in these races.
 
topcat

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Netserk said:
Would you also count that Vuelta as Wright 1 - 0 Rogla?
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Who do you think is going to have the better palmares at the end of their careers?
(Between Remco and Roglic. I think it's safe to say Roglic will outperform Wright.)
 
topcat

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Netserk said:
I don't know, Wright is a generational talent with many years ahead of him.
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If Pog was in the Lo Port stage to really push Roglic, would they have broken 2000 VAM? You know, the weather was perfect for it.
 
Extinction

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topcat said:
If Pog was in the Lo Port stage to really push Roglic, would they have broken 2000 VAM? You know, the weather was perfect for it.
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The Poggio might have provided evidence of the limits of his ceiling after such a furious start to his season. So not necessarily.
 
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SHAD0W93

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Netserk said:
Please line out how exactly Evenepoel was robbed of victories in those seven races by misfortune. What was his program for 2020 before the pandemic? I don't think he was even planned to start any of those seven races.

And Rogla was hit by misfortune before his 5th year that affected his record in these races.
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I never said Evenepoel would have won, I said that he’d be on the same trajectory as Roglic who in his second year didn’t win any either. Who knows what races Evenepoel or anyone could have wanted to race due to Covid and all the cancellations.

What misfortune did Roglic have for his first four years on Jumbo? I don’t recall any and a quick search couldn’t find anything.

We’re comparing the first 5 years to another ones eight. Thats even further narrowed down due to one losing two years from Covid and his crash. That graph is better used when both riders are retired. As of now Rolgic has been king of the one week big races. 10 years from now he still could be at the top or passed by Pog, Evenepoel, or someone else.
 
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Samu Cuenca said:
They're both adding nice results to their list of achievements, but if they never win the Giro, a second monument and/or the Tour and don't go on to manage future stars after their careers have ended, they will still be behind Tony Rominger when they turn 62.
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... which would be another travesty for cycling considering to what Rominger owes his entire career.
 
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Samu Cuenca said:
They're both adding nice results to their list of achievements, but if they never win the Giro, a second monument and/or the Tour and don't go on to manage future stars after their careers have ended, they will still be behind Tony Rominger when they turn 62.
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And Rominger is only the second-best Contador-turned-Cyclist in the history of cycling.
 
Red Rick

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Now that Roglic has won his most recent race vs Evenepoel, it is time to carefully dodge him in the Ardennes.
 
topcat

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tobydawq said:
I don't think topcat has ever made a serious post, so don't take this too heavily.
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I find it most amusing when I’m the only one in on the joke.
But seriously, I think Remco will end up with a far better palmares than Roglic. I’d have the two of them as fairly equal favourites for the upcoming giro.
 
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tobydawq

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topcat said:
I find it most amusing when I’m the only one in on the joke.
But seriously, I think Remco will end up with a far better palmares than Roglic. I’d have the two of them as fairly equal favourites for the upcoming giro.
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Agreed. Before Friday, I would for sure have said Remco but now it seems much more open.
 
topcat

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Sometimes you want to go where everybody knows your avatar.
If like me, you found the Catalunya thread and the riders’ threads hysterical and unreadable, this thread is the boy for you.
 
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