Vino attacks everyone said:I almost miss Ricco in the field...
I do too. Only clean of course though. (which may be an oxymoron)
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I do too. Only clean of course though. (which may be an oxymoron)
roundabout said:
How to lose friends and alienate people....
Doh, he's already done that so, it'snot going to make much difference there.
Well, he did do it. Lifetime ban then. But why out and in with blood so early in the season?
http://www.repubblica.it/sport/ciclismo/2011/10/11/news/ricco_ammette_autoemotrasfusione-23041715/
http://www.repubblica.it/sport/ciclismo/2011/10/11/news/ricco_ammette_autoemotrasfusione-23041715/
It seems he has admitted to giving himself a blood transfusion but only because it was prescribed...
Maybe this has been lost in translation but it seems unlikely that the Italian medical system expects people to give themselves required blood transfusions, even for a country that apparently has vending machines dispensing prescriptions.
Maybe this has been lost in translation but it seems unlikely that the Italian medical system expects people to give themselves required blood transfusions, even for a country that apparently has vending machines dispensing prescriptions.
The Cobra or whoever is advising him may think this is the best angle if ever wants to hold a license again. No idea what it might be, but I'm not sold this is a "yep I did it, lock me up". Of course with Riccardo, expect the unexpected. He will probably come out in the media tomorrow and say that he never made such a statement to the investigators.
You've met him?
thatsallfolks said:
You've met him?
Susan Westemeyer
Retired Moderator
The Italian media has now changed their story, he is said to have claimed to have transfused an iron prepration and not blood. But of course his lawyer denies he said it or did it at all.
Susan
Susan
Susan Westemeyer said:
He probably can't keep his lies straight at this point. And who self transfuses anything into their bodies? (legally?)
Susan Westemeyer said:
Wow. I wonder what it took for that story to get changed.
Is it one media source or many sources changing the story?
Susan Westemeyer
Retired Moderator
as far as i understand the medical aspects involved in blood doping or using needles in general (and as said before, i’m no medic), there are too many inconsistencies in ricco story (even after ansa fixed the original report).
firstly, the original reports on ricco, iirc when he was admitted to the hospital, alluded to the mishandled intravenous injection.
full stop - an iron solution, if a medical prescription requires that, would normally be an intramuscular injection (IM) and quite rarely intravenous (IV). And even if the iron IV was prescribed, it would almost certainly, regardless of the country, not be recommended for a self-administration. it’s a qualified medic’s job to find your veins and control the dose. besides, the needle marks left by the size involved in the IV of blood and an iron injection would tell the er physicians all they need to tell the prosecutors...
secondly, ricco would have to suffer a severe form of anemia (or a massive blood loss) that would necessitate a prescription for an iron injection.
he may very well have been low on haematocrit/hemoglobin (the main indications of anemia) after he withdrew a pint or two of his own blood…surely an unsuspecting doctor not knowing his medical history could forsee a need an iron injection in such a case…the trouble for ricco is, it is very unlikely for 2 reasons:
(i) it’s a well documented fact that ricco ALWAYS claimed the opposite - a naturally high haemoglobin/haemotocrit. The uci even gave him the appropriate blood permit, ffs
(ii) an honest physician will not prescribe an iron injections without the evidence of an acute cause (heavy bleeding) or an obvious history of anemia. There was absolutely no evidence of either ever …
thus i conclude, through the above analysis and without needing to see coni papers, that ricco is a blatantly lying sob again and his legal fella is playing a game too transparent to a qualified persons or an honest medic - that ricco supposedly became a victim of anaphylaxis when admitted to the hospital.
a bunch of bs, pure and simple.
firstly, the original reports on ricco, iirc when he was admitted to the hospital, alluded to the mishandled intravenous injection.
full stop - an iron solution, if a medical prescription requires that, would normally be an intramuscular injection (IM) and quite rarely intravenous (IV). And even if the iron IV was prescribed, it would almost certainly, regardless of the country, not be recommended for a self-administration. it’s a qualified medic’s job to find your veins and control the dose. besides, the needle marks left by the size involved in the IV of blood and an iron injection would tell the er physicians all they need to tell the prosecutors...
secondly, ricco would have to suffer a severe form of anemia (or a massive blood loss) that would necessitate a prescription for an iron injection.
he may very well have been low on haematocrit/hemoglobin (the main indications of anemia) after he withdrew a pint or two of his own blood…surely an unsuspecting doctor not knowing his medical history could forsee a need an iron injection in such a case…the trouble for ricco is, it is very unlikely for 2 reasons:
(i) it’s a well documented fact that ricco ALWAYS claimed the opposite - a naturally high haemoglobin/haemotocrit. The uci even gave him the appropriate blood permit, ffs
(ii) an honest physician will not prescribe an iron injections without the evidence of an acute cause (heavy bleeding) or an obvious history of anemia. There was absolutely no evidence of either ever …
thus i conclude, through the above analysis and without needing to see coni papers, that ricco is a blatantly lying sob again and his legal fella is playing a game too transparent to a qualified persons or an honest medic - that ricco supposedly became a victim of anaphylaxis when admitted to the hospital.
a bunch of bs, pure and simple.
Heh I was thinking about the iron being either irony or just a total lie.
Looks like he will never be back anyway.
Looks like he will never be back anyway.
you are not alone.Vino attacks everyone said:i just want him back in the peloton
Vino attacks everyone said:i just want him back in the peloton
I'm sure he'll be back but mainly at the sportif's, on the bright side you can ride with him!
Vino attacks everyone said:i just want him back in the peloton
he's likely to overdose first.
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