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Ferminal said:People were saying Richie Porte was a future top GT rider too... well at least in this part of the world
If Basso/Menchov (or even Nibali) can go from borderline top10 climbers to podiums in 2 years (at the age of 25-26), holding all else the same (no improvements in medical program); why can't Porte (who only rode his first GT at 25 anyway)?
Galic Ho said:There is one rider who had results early who has actually gotten worse. I thought he was the big rider on Liquigas in terms of potential versus age. Roman Kreuziger. Nibali passed him and Kreuziger is now super domestique quality at best. Clearly does not respond to whatever doping the others are doing. Or he simply doesn't do it. He should be getting better results because he had them young.
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durianrider said:I held 5.7 w/kg on this climb. I was 64kg that day.
Damien Howson smashed my time with 6.7 w/kg.
http://app.strava.com/segments/628886
Both of us did it on fresh legs with good form. 5.7 w/kg from Porte either is the wrong figure or a totally believable number.
ChrisE said:One guy that always stood out to me in this sense is Popovych. I don't know why he fell off to domestique after his early career results and where everybody was saying he was the real deal. He then goes to Bruhneel who I am sure put him on a "better" program, and he stops performing. Weird ****.
ChrisE said:One guy that always stood out to me in this sense is Popovych. I don't know why he fell off to domestique after his early career results and where everybody was saying he was the real deal. He then goes to Bruhneel who I am sure put him on a "better" program, and he stops performing. Weird ****.
ChrisE said:One guy that always stood out to me in this sense is Popovych. I don't know why he fell off to domestique after his early career results and where everybody was saying he was the real deal. He then goes to Bruhneel who I am sure put him on a "better" program, and he stops performing. Weird ****.
durianrider said:Cos when you are on all the products from the get go you don't improve much more. Especially when you have made so much $ and originally came from a poor background.
There is more money in dealing than performing.
He was (is) the pelotons number one supplier. The go to man for all things drugs.
The UCI can't take him down as 60% of the cycling's drug supply would disappear overnight
thehog said:There is more money in dealing than performing.
He was (is) the pelotons number one supplier. The go to man for all things drugs.
The UCI can't take him down as 60% of the cycling's drug supply would disappear overnight.
Ferminal said:What are you on about? What people say about someone is pretty irrelevant to any discussion here. You can't say someone is more suspicious because "no one ever rated them" or less suspicious because "they were hyped as a future winner". Performance and results are what actually matter.
ChrisE said:One guy that always stood out to me in this sense is Popovych. I don't know why he fell off to domestique after his early career results and where everybody was saying he was the real deal. He then goes to Bruhneel who I am sure put him on a "better" program, and he stops performing. Weird ****.
thehog said:There is more money in dealing than performing.
He was (is) the pelotons number one supplier. The go to man for all things drugs.
The UCI can't take him down as 60% of the cycling's drug supply would disappear overnight.
Galic Ho said:Does this explain Kreuziger? I don't think so. I've got nothing to base this example on having any basis for Roman. But it could be true. I don't want to play the Eastern European stereotype, but he could have been on a lot of gear younger and now has no room to grow performance wise. But with him I don't place much faith in that probability being even remotely likely.
ChrisE said:I'm not sure I buy into it at all, but why not the same theory for RK as Popo?
SeriousSam said:Froome gonna be his super domestique in the tour?
SeriousSam said:Froome gonna be his super domestique in the tour?
“I really enjoyed the two climbs on the time-trial at the beginning and the end of the course. I notice that I’ve really improved since this winter, working hard on my time-trialling position. Full credit goes to my team that helped me do that work.