Richie Porte - what do we know about him?

[Catwhoorg]

Don't forget, another former rider Davide Apollonio (SKY2011-2012) Popped for EPO a few weeks ago.

 

[M Sport]

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Richie Porte ‏@richie_porte 5h5 hours ago

Best moment of my day was stopping to have a chat to a guy calling me a doper on the way way back to the bus. He **** himself #coward

Fighting talk from LRP. Will be screen shoting that tweet, may come in handy in a year or two.

I see the 7 year old brought his dad back today

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cycling/33578004

Richie Porte, a team-mate of Tour de France leader Chris Froome, claims he was punched during this year's race as spectators rounded on Team Sky.

 

[blackcat]

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Richie Porte ‏@richie_porte 5h5 hours ago

Best moment of my day was stopping to have a chat to a guy calling me a doper on the way way back to the bus. He **** himself #coward

Fighting talk from LRP. Will be screen shoting that tweet, may come in handy in a year or two.

I see the 7 year old brought his dad back today

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cycling/33578004

Richie Porte, a team-mate of Tour de France leader Chris Froome, claims he was punched during this year's race as spectators rounded on Team Sky.

the media should not be doing the stenography and publishing these fables if they cannot fact check them like the New Yorker's division.

 

[pastronef]

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Don't forget, another former rider Davide Apollonio (SKY2011-2012) Popped for EPO a few weeks ago.

so what´s the news about it?

you wrote it right 2011-2012

we are in 2015. hello

 

[autologous]

 

[Afrank]

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Richie Porte ‏@richie_porte 5h5 hours ago

Best moment of my day was stopping to have a chat to a guy calling me a doper on the way way back to the bus. He **** himself #coward

Fighting talk from LRP. Will be screen shoting that tweet, may come in handy in a year or two.

I see the 7 year old brought his dad back today

http://www.bbc.com/sport/0/cycling/33578004

Richie Porte, a team-mate of Tour de France leader Chris Froome, claims he was punched during this year's race as spectators rounded on Team Sky.

the media should not be doing the stenography and publishing these fables if they cannot fact check them like the New Yorker's division.

BBC's doing nothing wrong by reporting on this. They are solely reporting Porte's words and not inserting a bias of their own into the article.

And with a race like Tour de France it would be almost impossible to double check if what the riders say happens during the race that isn't seen on the cameras is true or not. They would have to find and talk to anyone that might have been there and seen the incident. Not worth the time.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

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Don't forget, another former rider Davide Apollonio (SKY2011-2012) Popped for EPO a few weeks ago.

so what´s the news about it?

you wrote it right 2011-2012

we are in 2015. hello

The discussion referred to how there was no parallel with Sky to the USPS tendency where riders who had been with USPS would move on and then stop performing and/or test positive, and while there are riders who've improved greatly at Sky then ceased to produce when moving on (Nordhaug and Possoni being the most obvious examples), there isn't the same extent of riders testing positive after leaving Sky. Hence why Rogers and Appollonio were mentioned. Appo was never as "in the know" as Rogers, who was a centrepiece of the 2012 Tour triumph, but then Appo didn't have previous doping history too. Possoni also got a namedrop in Mantova if I remember rightly?

 

[Semper Fidelis]

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Richie Porte, a team-mate of Tour de France leader Chris Froome, claims he was punched during this year's race as spectators rounded on Team Sky.

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the media should not be doing the stenography and publishing these fables if they cannot fact check them like the New Yorker's division.

BBC's doing nothing wrong by reporting on this. They are solely reporting Porte's words and not inserting a bias of their own into the article.

And with a race like Tour de France it would be almost impossible to double check if what the riders say happens during the race that isn't seen on the cameras is true or not. They would have to find and talk to anyone that might have been there and seen the incident. Not worth the time.

everyone's millage may vary on this. In my opinion I would side with the blackcat on this. Bad work by the bbc.

 

[the delgados]

@AFrank:
There's a ton of people the BBC could have interviewed; all of whom were riding next to Froome when the incident occurred. Surely someone next to him caught a bit of splash, no?

 

[Afrank]

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@AFrank:
There's a ton of people the BBC could have interviewed; all of whom were riding next to Froome when the incident occurred. Surely someone next to him caught a bit of splash, no?

When the pee throw incident occurred, yes. In the article in question though, Porte was talking about a punch within the last 3 km of stage 10. Porte was all be himself in the last 3 km, and they do pass through a particular hectic section of fans at around 2.2 km's to go.

It's not unreasonable to think a fan might have thrown a punch there. Froome had to push at least one fan back.

 

[the delgados]

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@AFrank:
There's a ton of people the BBC could have interviewed; all of whom were riding next to Froome when the incident occurred. Surely someone next to him caught a bit of splash, no?

When the pee throw incident occurred, yes. In the article in question though, Porte was talking about a punch within the last 3 km of stage 10. Porte was all be himself in the last 3 km, and they do pass through a particular hectic section of fans at around 2.2 km's to go.

It's not unreasonable to think a fan might have thrown a punch there. Froome had to push at least one fan back.

Sorry, I was getting my threads mixed up and confused the Froome and Porte incidents.
I agree that it's not unreasonable to think either incident occurred, and I believe what both Froome and Porte says. But a reporter should always do whatever they can to corroborate anything they're told before publishing a story. It's their job.

 

[ray j willings]

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Richie Porte ‏@richie_porte 5h5 hours ago

Best moment of my day was stopping to have a chat to a guy calling me a doper on the way way back to the bus. He **** himself #coward

That twit shows why he is such a muthurhucker. If you have to tweet that pile of Sh%% to boost your ego then you are full of sh%%,

Poor Ray,nice words.Maybe you should meet him and tell him that in person I'm sure he'll be ashamed of himself and promise to change.

I would have no problem with that if the circumstances occurred

Its not the fact he dopes, its the fact he has to brag about how tough he his. Why would you tweet that?
I mean it was a stupid thing to tweet. it maybe accounts for why he got punched.
NO ONE SHOULD PUNCH A RIDER ON THE ROAD.
There are some idiots out there who will cross the line. A post like that has no usefulness considering most people think they dope anyway and it only takes one idiot to cross the line. Look what happened to Merckx.

 

[M Sport]

Gold. A gift that just keeps on giving.

 

[mewmewmew13]

 

[ChewbaccaDefense]

Being physically threatened should never be part of being a professional athlete...unless fighting of some sort is your profession. The picture of that guy approaching Porte would be better if there were another of that guy getting knocked the *** out by Porte. It just a *** cycling race.

 

[M Sport]

Is there video footage? The body language of the guy leaning back with his arms by his side is not that suggesting force or threat, maybe just said something LRP didn't agree with?

 

[blackcat]

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@AFrank:
There's a ton of people the BBC could have interviewed; all of whom were riding next to Froome when the incident occurred. Surely someone next to him caught a bit of splash, no?

When the pee throw incident occurred, yes. In the article in question though, Porte was talking about a punch within the last 3 km of stage 10. Porte was all be himself in the last 3 km, and they do pass through a particular hectic section of fans at around 2.2 km's to go.

It's not unreasonable to think a fan might have thrown a punch there. Froome had to push at least one fan back.

Sorry, I was getting my threads mixed up and confused the Froome and Porte incidents.
I agree that it's not unreasonable to think either incident occurred, and I believe what both Froome and Porte says. But a reporter should always do whatever they can to corroborate anything they're told before publishing a story. It's their job.

yes, its not unreasonable to think they occurred. but i dont believe them, because Sky have been orchestrating a florid and overwrought PR campaign. the fable of the boy who cries wolf. so it is not a false dichtomy to think this.

and, aslo, how about if Sky, or Froome/Porte put a little sugar on the anecdote, and take some artistic licence in the retelling? does the "empire crew" still wanna believe and give them a wide berth? poet laureate, artist in residence at central st martins? come on...

and does it matter? when we know they are doping, does this trivial detail matter? i suppose depends on your worldview. it is a little absurd tho.

 

[blackcat]

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Is there video footage? The body language of the guy leaning back with his arms by his side is not that suggesting force or threat, maybe just said something LRP didn't agree with?

no just that, but a smirkie looking smile.

and cycling has always had fans pushing on hills, fans pushing after a flat or wheel change, and help starting... so it is not like there ever was this divide between fan and rider. alot of the empire crew wont know this.

 

[Lyon]

Sky would no doubt be happy if every race had barriers from start to finish. Or, why not, be closed to spectators altogether. It would be more sporting and clean in a Protestant ethic kind of way.

 

[Dalakhani]

Jeez, Porte is so strong that you can punch him in the stomach (full on), and he's still able to reel in Quintana.

 

[Frosty]

Was this the incident from yesterday where someone tried to take a selfie with Porte? He's putting his phone back into his pocket so maybe it is?

 

[wendybnt]

Gold. A gift that just keeps on giving.

That is a hilarious photo...if it is real and not photoshopped......but if it is real, what does it say about the mentality and intentions of the people involved? Did they come to watch bike racing, or are they just jerks out for some trouble? Is this really the sort of stuff we want happenning in our sport?

I think I have posted that I don't know what I am watching on my tv at the moment. None of it makes sense from a doping perspective or a clean perspective. But what I do think about the furore being generated towards Sky riders is that some of it is hypocritical as hell, and not without its own element of nationalistic bigotry. When I read this 'gordonstoun muscular christianity empire crew' stuff, it sounds like standard bitter Aussie anti-Brit sentiment. It isn't helpful, it is dishonest, and it is hypocritical, not least because of the obvious point that the obviously questionable Ritchie Porte is an aussie. (apologies if the originator of this meme isn't an aussie!)

I think Sky are cheating. But I think the people they are cheating are also cheats. In the time that Sky have been riding they have won two GTs. So has Nibali. Contador has won three.

We need a Kiwi winner

 

[ray j willings]

Gold. A gift that just keeps on giving.

BRILLLIANT

 

[blackcat]

That is a hilarious photo...if it is real and not photoshopped......but if it is real, what does it say about the mentality and intentions of the people involved? Did they come to watch bike racing, or are they just jerks out for some trouble? Is this really the sort of stuff we want happenning in our sport?

I think I have posted that I don't know what I am watching on my tv at the moment. None of it makes sense from a doping perspective or a clean perspective. But what I do think about the furore being generated towards Sky riders is that some of it is hypocritical as hell, and not without its own element of nationalistic bigotry. When I read this 'gordonstoun muscular christianity empire crew' stuff, it sounds like standard bitter Aussie anti-Brit sentiment. It isn't helpful, it is dishonest, and it is hypocritical, not least because of the obvious point that the obviously questionable Ritchie Porte is an aussie. (apologies if the originator of this meme isn't an aussie!)

I think Sky are cheating. But I think the people they are cheating are also cheats. In the time that Sky have been riding they have won two GTs. So has Nibali. Contador has won three.

We need a Kiwi winner

dont take it serious.

people have a tin ear for satire.

even if i dont believe in #PoesLaw

 

[wendybnt]

dont take it serious.

people have a tin ear for satire.

even if i dont believe in #PoesLaw

Are you the culprit then?

To be honest, I don't think that sort of stuff is helpful. It might seem funny, but it just serves to polarise, get people's backs up, push the discussion away from being meaningful and into the playground.

Like I said, there is alround hypocrisy going on here, and that is part of it. This is about money not nationality.