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Alexandre B. said:He said to L'Equipe that he's not ready for the Tour win yet. He wants to win the Giro first.
Just read that Chaves was in no rush yet - said it depended on the route. Chances are, tho, that TdF would want to keep ITT miles at a minimum to give Quintana more of a chance, as said as that is, while the Giro probably would want a long ITT at least since Nibali is riding and many of his main competitors on paper are weaker than him. Who knows.yaco said:No certainty Chavez will ride the Giro - Though at least one of the Yates brothers will be riding the Giro - Reckon Aru will ride the TDF again and Lopez will do the giro - Reckon only one of the French boys will ride the Giro - And I suggest Valverde is a near certainty.
The best thing is that, unlike the tour, all of those riders are capable of winning it.Valv.Piti said:Okay, so riders who right now are going to ride the Giro:
Nibali
Kruijswijk
Landa
Aru
Chaves
Pinot
Bardet
Potentially Contador and Valverde as well. It might be easier to win TdF and hope Quintana and Froome crashes out - it will most likely be an insane lineup for that race.
Valv.Piti said:Just read that Chaves was in no rush yet - said it depended on the route. Chances are, tho, that TdF would want to keep ITT miles at a minimum to give Quintana more of a chance, as said as that is, while the Giro probably would want a long ITT at least since Nibali is riding and many of his main competitors on paper are weaker than him. Who knows.yaco said:No certainty Chavez will ride the Giro - Though at least one of the Yates brothers will be riding the Giro - Reckon Aru will ride the TDF again and Lopez will do the giro - Reckon only one of the French boys will ride the Giro - And I suggest Valverde is a near certainty.
Chances are, as you said, that only one of the French GC-hopefuls will ride the Giro. I hope for Bardet - way more consistent than Tipo.
Valverde? Yes, he is likely to do the Giro, but it clashes with Ardennes somewhat and he also wants to ride Flanders at some point, me thinks.
Aru should come back to the Giro. No point being at the Tour.
Lopezyaco said:Valv.Piti said:Just read that Chaves was in no rush yet - said it depended on the route. Chances are, tho, that TdF would want to keep ITT miles at a minimum to give Quintana more of a chance, as said as that is, while the Giro probably would want a long ITT at least since Nibali is riding and many of his main competitors on paper are weaker than him. Who knows.yaco said:No certainty Chavez will ride the Giro - Though at least one of the Yates brothers will be riding the Giro - Reckon Aru will ride the TDF again and Lopez will do the giro - Reckon only one of the French boys will ride the Giro - And I suggest Valverde is a near certainty.
Chances are, as you said, that only one of the French GC-hopefuls will ride the Giro. I hope for Bardet - way more consistent than Tipo.
Valverde? Yes, he is likely to do the Giro, but it clashes with Ardennes somewhat and he also wants to ride Flanders at some point, me thinks.
Aru should come back to the Giro. No point being at the Tour.
Aru was OK at the TDF except for his hunger flat on the penultimate stage - Who else from Astana can ride for GC ?
Pinot? Not sure yet. But looking at your list, if that is the lineup, I can't wait. It will be epic.Valv.Piti said:Okay, so riders who right now are going to ride the Giro:
Nibali
Kruijswijk
Landa
Aru
Chaves
Pinot
Bardet
Potentially Contador and Valverde as well. It might be easier to win TdF and hope Quintana and Froome crashes out - it will most likely be an insane lineup for that race.
Was a superb ride by him today. I think it's very, very difficut to do well in Lombardia having raced hard for GC in the Tour. It's too long to hold a peak and not quite long enough to rest up and reach a second peak in time. So was great to even see him in contention.Alexandre B. said:As I feared, Bergamo Alta is not his type of climb.
Nonetheless, a very brave ride and a well-deserved top 10 in the WT rankings. World class rider.
I think the finish in Como (with last year route) suits him more. He has the guts and intelligence to snatch a Monument, I'm sure of it.Arredondo said:Despite the fact he was really strong, i don't think he can win a big classic. I feel a little bit the same with Pinot. A little bit too much climber for Lombardia, and for sure for Liege/Fleche and Clasica.
Guys like Chaves, Valverde or Martin are also good climbers, but they have also big explosivity and a good sprint. For Bardet: he needs a really hard race. And even then, he always will face a faster/more explosive rider in the final to beat.
But we need guys like Bardet and Pinot to wear out the typical classics riders and make a harder race in general.
Agree, I think he could take a very hard edition of Lombardia - with a big climb closer to the finish. Or perhaps even a Liege if it is very wet and all breaks up early - where technique becomes important.Alexandre B. said:I think the finish in Como (with last year route) suits him more. He has the guts and intelligence to snatch a Monument, I'm sure of it.Arredondo said:Despite the fact he was really strong, i don't think he can win a big classic. I feel a little bit the same with Pinot. A little bit too much climber for Lombardia, and for sure for Liege/Fleche and Clasica.
Guys like Chaves, Valverde or Martin are also good climbers, but they have also big explosivity and a good sprint. For Bardet: he needs a really hard race. And even then, he always will face a faster/more explosive rider in the final to beat.
But we need guys like Bardet and Pinot to wear out the typical classics riders and make a harder race in general.
I don't necessarily think it suited him less than the other riders, I simply think he was the worst of the 4 riders. Urán was really strong, breaching a gap like that, Chaves was incredible on the climbs and Rosa... they were monsters today. Bardet was really good, but just lacked that bit.Alexandre B. said:As I feared, Bergamo Alta is not his type of climb.
Nonetheless, a very brave ride and a well-deserved top 10 in the WT rankings. World class rider.