Ronde Van Vlaanderen 2012

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Polyarmour said:
Pippo and Ballan reinvented the old one/two.
Their version is called the one/zero.
Ballan attacks and Pippo does nothing.
They may as well have just gone with the old zero/zero, they would have had the same result.

That's because they weren't trying to one-two. Ballan needed to attack in order to win and Pozzato finally realised that he should let the fastest one do the work. Unlike in MSR 2011.:rolleyes:
 
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DominicDecoco said:
You're wrong. I've now seen that video many times and there's no way he could have avoided that. Come on. Get real. They were coming right at him with 50-60 kmh.

There was another man who just stayed where he was (at the same place as the one who was hit) and nothing happened to him.
Spectators were in the line of some trees and traffic islands between road and cycling path.
Man who panicked was hit while running.

Video of the crash
 
Jun 2, 2010
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DominicDecoco said:
Stop the video at 0:37 and you'll see why nothing happend to the other spectators and they didn't had to move.

Man in white shirt was standing in the same place as the one who was hit. He didn't run and nothing happened to him.
 
Sep 20, 2011
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Does anyone know if there's photos available somehwere already? It's what I love almost more than de Ronde van Vlaanderen itself, looking at the photos of the cyclists, the area and the fans. I can easily do that for hours and hours, same with Roubaix.
 
Jan 11, 2010
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DominicDecoco said:
You're wrong. I've now seen that video many times and there's no way he could have avoided that. Come on. Get real. They were coming right at him with 50-60 kmh.
The safest option is just to stay right where you are. A guy who comes at you with 60-70 kmh can avoid you, but he doesn't have the time to react if you make a sudden movement.
 
personal said:
Man in white shirt was standing in the same place as the one who was hit. He didn't run and nothing happened to him.

They were alot closer hitting the two guys than the one in white.

But it's so easy to say 'he did wrong'. He had 1 second to react with 4-5-6 riders coming at him with 50-60 kmh from every direction. How the hell should be able to know that there were riders coming behind as well on the cycling lane? You are being totally unrealistic here. You really are.
 
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DominicDecoco said:
They were alot closer hitting the two guys than the one in white.

But it's so easy to say 'he did wrong'. He had 1 second to react with 4-5-6 riders coming at him with 50-60 kmh from every direction. How the hell should be able to know that there were riders coming behind as well on the cycling lane? You are being totally unrealistic here. You really are.

In the same circumstance I'd probably have tried to get out of the way too. I think its just a natural reaction to take one's self out of impending harm's way.
 
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Btw what about Sagan...he made another big jump. He's going to be a major force in these classics very quickly. I wonder if he'll have something left for the Ardennes.

LBL might be too hard. But AGR and FW maybe...
 
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gooner said:
Sagan is improving all the time. Today he missed and got caught out by the attack by Pozzato and when he tried to respond and get back on the Paterberg it was too late but he will learn from this.

I dont know will he have the legs left for the Ardennes as Liquigas have really pushed him these last few weeks. I think the Muur de Huy will be too hard for him in FW. Liquigas will probably use Nibali more for the Ardennes races if thats the case.
He already got back to the front group with Boonen after Vansummeren's crash, all on his own. It's just amazing the amount of energy he spent, and still being there in the final. If this kid gets any better he'll be just about unbeatable.
 
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DominicDecoco said:
They were alot closer hitting the two guys than the one in white.

But it's so easy to say 'he did wrong'. He had 1 second to react with 4-5-6 riders coming at him with 50-60 kmh from every direction. How the hell should be able to know that there were riders coming behind as well on the cycling lane? You are being totally unrealistic here. You really are.

Yet, guy who run was hit and the guy who just stayed there was not.

Riders were not going directly at him. Close by, but not at him. They were not crazy and thex were not trying to hit somebody just as they were not going for run into trees and traffic islands.

Sure, it took some nerve to remain standing there, but we all can see the result of him panicing and trying to run.
 
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What a wonderful day! :)

Tom Boonen, a great rider. He had not best legs, but still good enough to deliver maximum result. And he had a strongest team and he knew what he had to do to win. Great victory for a great rider. Congrats!

Please, one more time Tommeke, one more time. Then it's perfect spring.
 
personal said:
Yet, guy who run was hit and the guy who just stayed there was not.

Riders were not going directly at him. Close by, but not at him. They were not crazy and thex were not trying to hit somebody just as they were not going for run into trees and traffic islands.

Sure, it took some nerve to remain standing there, but we all can see the result of him panicing and trying to run.

Yeah, it's hard to predict the outcome here 7 hours after the incident isn't it?...
 
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personal said:
Yet, guy who run was hit and the guy who just stayed there was not.

Riders were not going directly at him. Close by, but not at him. They were not crazy and thex were not trying to hit somebody just as they were not going for run into trees and traffic islands.

Sure, it took some nerve to remain standing there, but we all can see the result of him panicing and trying to run.

Are you faulting the guy for trying to get out the way?
 
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It's equally true that the riders that stayed on the road didn't get brought down by panicky spectators. So maybe that's the hindsight to use.
 
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Panda Claws said:
That's because they weren't trying to one-two. Ballan needed to attack in order to win and Pozzato finally realised that he should let the fastest one do the work. Unlike in MSR 2011.:rolleyes:

you mean like he did in towing Boonen up to Ballan in the first place?
 
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Zabel was rather wrong, IMHO, by saying "hardest one day race in calendar by far"...

Liege and Lombardia shouldn´t be that much easier.
 
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Just some thoughts from the race

-Hushovd certainly does not have the form to feature in Paris Roubaix. He was in the last 25 riders in the peloton after the Koppenberg.
-Cancellara's crash was devastating although he has always had good luck on his side in these classics.
-Gilbert's attack was rather weak and he was ******ed after it. I am highly sceptical that he will be at top for for Amstel or even Liege. Evans and GVA will have to lead BMC.
-Lars Boom still has trouble with long distance races or simply does not have the form.
-Langeveld was largely at fault for his crash considering how far out to the footpath he went to.
-I think that either the course wasn't as difficult as originally discussed or the race was ridden rather conservatively. I think a bit of both.
-The final two clims showed that Pozzato and Ballan were stronger than Boonen on the climbs.
-Paolini was a bit of a surprise.
-Sagan will win de Ronde in the future but he showed some experience in the finale.
-Ballan's attacks were in vain but he had to try.
-The crowds were quite poor in the finish and the finish lacked atmosphere.

And finally, why was Hondo going nuts at some of the race staff?
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Just some thoughts from the race

-Hushovd certainly does not have the form to feature in Paris Roubaix. He was in the last 25 riders in the peloton after the Koppenberg.
-Cancellara's crash was devastating although he has always had good luck on his side in these classics.
-Gilbert's attack was rather weak and he was ******ed after it. I am highly sceptical that he will be at top for for Amstel or even Liege. Evans and GVA will have to lead BMC.
-Lars Boom still has trouble with long distance races or simply does not have the form.
-Langeveld was largely at fault for his crash considering how far out to the footpath he went to.
-I think that either the course wasn't as difficult as originally discussed or the race was ridden rather conservatively. I think a bit of both.
-The final two clims showed that Pozzato and Ballan were stronger than Boonen on the climbs.
-Paolini was a bit of a surprise.
-Sagan will win de Ronde in the future but he showed some experience in the finale.
-Ballan's attacks were in vain but he had to try.
-The crowds were quite poor in the finish and the finish lacked atmosphere.

And finally, why was Hondo going nuts at some of the race staff?

To the bolded text agreed, but Boonen said he had to ride two gears higher than he wanted to cause his bike didnt cooperate with him.

To the underlined part, I'm not sure if we can judge his long distance potential, maybe only his form. But puncturing before the first time of the Kwaremont doesn't help in determining it either :p.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Just some thoughts from the race

-Sagan will win de Ronde in the future but he showed some experience in the finale.

And finally, why was Hondo going nuts at some of the race staff?

Yeah Sagan + Vanmarcke will win it for sure.

Didn't Hondo try to congratulate Boonen but was pushed away?