Ruta del Sol - Vuelta ciclista a Andalucia 2014 2.1 (19th - 23rd Feb)

[TANK91]

He should have stayed with attacking. That's how he used to win races.

I agree was the TDF were Wiggo abondond he was great, do you think he will get back to that?

 

[TANK91]

He should have gone to some smalish IAM like team where he can be captain and focus on taking the hilly stages in the tour and other stage races.

Imagine a Chava EBH combo lol, that would be epic.

 

[Sykhrzon]

Quintana=Froome
Valverde is probably = to Porte (I think Porte is very, very good but I'll probably get lambasted if I go on about how great he is).

Interesting observation. In terms of GC, I think it's something like this now:

1. Froome
2. Quintana
3. Nibali
4. J-Rod
5. Valverde
6. Porte
7. Contador (maybe even lower now)
8. Horner
9. Uran
10. Kreuziger
11-20: Mollema, Tejay, Evans, Scarponi, Bentancur, Heano, Kwai, Costa, Pozzovivo

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Have you done your bets Ryo?, i did not no you was a fan of EBH.

I was being sarcastic of course.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

How many have Movistar won? We all no your biast if Henao was 2nd instead of Quintana at the TDF and was the bigger talent you'd say sky have the best climbers and pound for pound Sky do have them, did you miss the TDF last year or you saying Porte is below Valverde.

All Porte is yet to do is have the result to back it up, these races or Valverde's best as their punchy climbs Valverde was not better in the TDF than Porte, Porte had 1 bad day.

valverde has won multiple classics. other than him they don't have the riders nor the ambition for the classics. sky do, also for cobbles and msr.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Interesting observation. In terms of GC, I think it's something like this now:

1. Froome
2. Quintana
3. Nibali
4. J-Rod
5. Valverde
6. Porte
7. Contador (maybe even lower now)
8. Horner
9. Uran
10. Kreuziger
11-20: Mollema, Tejay, Evans, Scarponi, Bentancur, Heano, Kwai, Costa, Pozzovivo

lol @ nibali being 3rd best climber. what planet is that on?

 

[TANK91]

nairo is a better climber than froome already and he will only improve since being so young. his showing in san luis with overweight was already tremendous

No just no Ryo they are very close but i would give Froome the edge in any race were Froome is fresh, in the final week Quintana had the better recovery though. And even if Quintana ends up better(which he should do) im sure you would agree its going to be evry hard to beat Froome still in the TDFfor a while.


Edit:
Also in San Luis the competition is not as strong as Oman so i dont think we can use San luis, trust me im a huge Quintana fan so im in no way diminishing him Ryo just saying its bit soon to be sure he is better dude.

 

[TANK91]

valverde has won multiple classics. other than him they don't have the riders nor the ambition for the classics. sky do, also for cobbles and msr.

Yeh i new Valverde has im on about since Sky have been around im sure their ike the same.

 

[maltiv]

I agree was the TDF were Wiggo abondond he was great, do you think he will get back to that?

I think he will, but he has to change team first, of course. I hope he joins IAM.

 

[Sykhrzon]

lol @ nibali being 3rd best climber. what planet is that on?

I actually love your outbursts of anger but you are the definition of bad karma, Ryo-san.

 

[TANK91]

I think he will, but he has to change team first, of course. I hope he joins IAM.

He aslo does ok in WC doesn't he i feel he is still young enough to do well he just so unlucky as he does not really be the best at 1 thing he is so all round it sort of goes against him.

If he would commit and say im gonna go stage hunting he could be better than even riders like LuLu and TV, and as he is young he could win stages for years to come i think thats his best bet go in breaks he would almost be guarantedd to win in breakaways on hilly and flat stages.

But i think he thinks thats a waste and he probably holding onto possibility of getting a big classic win which you cant blame him for.

 

[Sykhrzon]

How would your top 20 look like, Ryo? I'll find you actually very knowledgeable. You were right about Kwai gaining on Costa on a short TT.

Remember, we're talking stage races, not individual performances.

 

[Christian]

This is where I used to live! Very beautiful area

 

[Carols]

I jusy got in

http://www.sportlemon.tv/20140220/vv530583f26718a0.70986893-752376.html

10.7km to go

 

[Bakhjulet]

I think he will, but he has to change team first, of course. I hope he joins IAM.

Any chance of EBH skipping P-R or RVV and trying AGR instead (I think he should skip P-R, in RVV he has at least been top 20)? Believe this is the classic he has the best chance of winning. Good final for EBH which we saw in the Worlds.

 

[ItalianGigolo]

Mecgez for the win in this one if he is there...

 

[Bakhjulet]

Sky and EBH will screw this one up, just watch.

 

[Afrank]

How would your top 20 look like, Ryo? I'll find you actually very knowledgeable. You were right about Kwai gaining on Costa on a short TT.

Remember, we're talking stage races, not individual performances.

To bolded: That's not a particularly hard call to make though, is it now?

 

[Vino attacks everyone]

How would your top 20 look like, Ryo? I'll find you actually very knowledgeable. You were right about Kwai gaining on Costa on a short TT.

Remember, we're talking stage races, not individual performances.

he has made a top 20 before. Can't remember how it quite looked though, but I think Scarponi was clearly a better climber than Nibali if my memory serves me correct.

 

[Bakhjulet]

Wiggo leading the skytrain now.

 

[Cyivel]

Fairly big crash.

 

[Popchu]

Ciolek or Jans?

edit: really close!

 

[Bakhjulet]

Ouch! Crash!

 

[Fzotrlool]

he has made a top 20 before. Can't remember how it quite looked though, but I think Scarponi was clearly a better climber than Nibali if my memory serves me correct.

wow really? people who exclude Nibali from a top 10 must be on something strong

 

[Popchu]

Ciolek wins.