DirtyWorks said:Saddle position is very personal and definitely varies.
I give the same advice about saddle tilt, that the rider should feel like they are sitting 'in' the saddle. The goal being riders relaxing their shoulders, elbows a good deal. I've seen riders who have taken my advice with their saddles pointed down and they report feeling like they are sitting 'in'. Their upper bodies confirm it.
That's not me though.
That's not actually as down as it looks, on a curved saddle (actually any saddle) you dont put the level on the back edge to the front edge.Zigster said:Frédéric Guesdon: down, although the stand makes it look worse than it is
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That's how I've always understood it too. Funny though, this spring I moved my saddle back about 1cm (almost max) and still level. The lower back pain I had been experiencing seems to be going away, even though most of my climbing has been in the saddle.Zigster said:I think a saddle that is titled up too much (even if that means level) or set too far back will cause back pain, too far forward will cause pain below the knee, and tilted down too far down will just feel weird.
Like the other poster said, you might want to experiment with a shorter stem. Buy a shorter (maybe 5mm?) cheapo stem and see how it goes. Don't change the rise. The saddle sounds good to me.richwagmn said:I"ll hijaak it slightly and ask how do people here set their saddle tilt?
I never have saddle soreness and it makes me feel, like the other poster said, that I'm sitting in the saddle.
I'm not a very flexible person so maybe that's part of the issue too.
It shouldn't be hard to discern the difference between sliding off the front because of the saddle's tilt and sliding off the the front because the stem's too long. If you find yourself pulling yourself off the front of the saddle with your arms, the stem's too long. If you feel like you're pushing with your arms to get your **** back where it belongs, the tilt is too low in front.Zigster said:your stem or top tube might be too long, pulling you forward
or you might just be oddly shaped
that indeed is very far backZigster said:Taylor Phinney: maybe 1°-2° up, and all the way back
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perhaps not enough setback, and/or a too long stem?richwagmn said:I"ll hijaak it slightly and ask how do people here set their saddle tilt?
I ride a selle italia SLR and when it's dead level, I'm constantly sliding forward. I ride with a slight upward tilt. I have no idea if that's officially proper, but I never have saddle soreness and it makes me feel, like the other poster said, that I'm sitting in the saddle.
I'm not a very flexible person so maybe that's part of the issue too.
Some fit 'experts' get all worked up about angles and distances and points in space and such but the bottom line if it works for you, then it works for you, regardless of the angle.richwagmn said:I"ll hijaak it slightly and ask how do people here set their saddle tilt?
I ride a selle italia SLR and when it's dead level, I'm constantly sliding forward. I ride with a slight upward tilt. I have no idea if that's officially proper, but I never have saddle soreness and it makes me feel, like the other poster said, that I'm sitting in the saddle.
I'm not a very flexible person so maybe that's part of the issue too.
The thing is the SLR is a pretty flexible saddle though. I can easily push down on the nose with my hand and flex it a couple of millimeters or so. So if I'm riding in the drops, I'm probably going to be sitting more on the nose of my saddle and it flexes downwards which is why it's slightly pointed up.Zigster said:that would be a little easier to accept if we had some photos of pros who have their saddle pointed up
probably where they should be.ustabe said:The flat-to upward tilt worked better in the old days because the handlebars were higher, even at the brake hoods where most of the riding is done.
Agreed - a lot of people don't seem to realise they have elbows...Captain Serious said:probably where they should be.*Mini rant from a '90s man*
Tell all the young'ns out there, ya don't need a huge bar drop to get aero.
Jee, how convenient of me to select two of the classiest riders ever to help illustrate a point.![]()
I've often wondered about that myself.dsut4392 said:Agreed - a lot of people don't seem to realise they have elbows...