sagan over 9000

[tomorrow]

well, as far as TdF and sagan is concerned, he might even wear the yellow in the begining, first stage is short very technical ITT in which he is great, then there is short but steep uphill finish in the second stage. He could easily win this one and there there one or two more short uphill finishes in the early stages. In my opinion, this year's TdF is well suited for Sagan. However, we'll see.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

who here thinks that sagan is racing more than he should?

he showed (at 21) he can win MSR, RVV, and today he murdered gilbert in the cauberg, after a failed attack with voeckler.

nibali (an amazing rider) is costing him better results. he didn't help win when he needed in MSR, arguably costing him a victory, and today.. well...

is it time for sagan to move? witch team? isn't he overdoing it (races he always tries to win.. not walks like andy).

liquigas are notorious for doing this. see kreuziger in the past

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

Who here thinks your new threads are completely unnecessary...

nobody's forcing you to respond. in fact this and any topic would be a lot better with you out of it

 

[oboy77]

i would love it. he does not need the tour and he would hammer another vuelta, learning more and getting better results.

Sure, Peter doesn't need the Tour but his team does. Amadio needs results to find new sponsors. He needs really big results. Since there's no bigger race than TdF, two stages and few days in yellow should do.

 

[DominicDecoco]

nobody's forcing you to respond. in fact this and any topic would be a lot better with you out of it

Returned from your 10th ban in row have you...?

 

[DominicDecoco]

nobody's forcing you to respond. in fact this and any topic would be a lot better with you out of it

Oh, the irony. Back from your 10th ban in a row are you?

 

[B_Ugli]

I am beginning to think we should have a "Handbags at Dawn" thread on here where all the old women that want to have catfights can go.

It seems every thread on here at the moment descends into a catfight which eventually ends in the treads going way off course while individuals trade insults.

 

[maltiv]

I think he will now rest up and get at least 2 stages at the TDF/ one EBH style in a sprint and one Thor style.

Well EBH has won 2 of his 3 GT stages from small breakaways (one solo) while Hushovd has won 10 out of his 13 GT stages from a sprint, so your "Thor style/EBH style" comparison doesn't really make sense

 

[lukinox]

I don't think Sagan is racing too much, AGR was the last race of his spring campaign and now he can rest 2/3 weeks before Cali and then more rest and the Tour.
He's 21 ffs when I was 21 I was partying all night and then working all day! (I'm on a wheel chair now)(joking I still cycle almost every day).
But he definitely needs good management so not to squander his gift.

 

[saganftw]

Well EBH has won 2 of his 3 GT stages from small breakaways (one solo) while Hushovd has won 10 out of his 13 GT stages from a sprint, so your "Thor style/EBH style" comparison doesn't really make sense

yet nobody remembers hushovds sprint victories but everyone remembers his victory in WC jersey

 

[greenedge]

@Maltiv: true but i meant as of last year ( as an example ).

The EBH win was the only mass sprint without Cav. And i don't know if Sagan can win against Cav.

 

[karlboss]

Sagan is probably a victim of his great talent and because of this he has raced so much.

He is capable of winning all the classics with the exception of FW because the Mur is too hard for him. I think he has to very careful which classics to pick to ride in the future.

Maybe Liquigas were trying to give him as much racing experience in these races this year as they will stand to him in future years.

I'd be interested to see how he goes, he constantly surprises. I'll admit the Mur is much tougher than the Cauberg. However it is still only a 3ish minute effort, Sagan is good for 3 minutes isn't he?. Like many up until this year I was thinking 250km was just too far, then his performances is la ronde, MSR, and Amstel put paid to that (though Amstel wasn't raced super hard) I'd be interested in how he goes in PR, FW and LBL...but if we are already talking about him having raced too much, perhaps we should wait.
I think Liquigas realise his potential and will manage him well, how could you risk burning out a talent like this?

 

[orangerider]

@Maltiv: true but i meant as of last year ( as an example ).

The EBH win was the only mass sprint without Cav. And i don't know if Sagan can win against Cav.

Definitely not on a pancake flat stage race unless Cav out of form, held up in a crash, etc.

 

[oboy77]

Sagan is probably a victim of his great talent and because of this he has raced so much.

He is capable of winning all the classics with the exception of FW because the Mur is too hard for him. I think he has to very careful which classics to pick to ride in the future.

Maybe Liquigas were trying to give him as much racing experience in these races this year as they will stand to him in future years.

Watching him dominate on the steep finish climb in Chieti I'm not that worried about his Mur de Huy capabilities.

 

[King Of The Wolds]

Watching him dominate on the steep finish climb in Chieti I'm not that worried about his Mur de Huy capabilities.

The Chieti climb's cobbled, no? Steep, sure, but more Sagan's bag. That said, I wouldn't put anything past him.