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Schleck's mentality: 101

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Forgive me if I'm being a little bit too harsh, but is Schleck really stupid or what? Since when do you win a GT after one week... and there is so much hypocricy in all his words it's just laughable

I'm fast losing any respect I had for the guy...

This is the series of events that I think he has forgotten about:

1. Prologue

A shocking prologue, which (despite the weather) is usually a very good indicator of one's form in the time trials

2. Waiting for Andy

The ENTIRE peloton (bar a few Garmin guys and Chavanel) came within an inch of literally stopping and waiting for him while he cried about how wet and slippery the road was. Plenty of contenders could have rode away on that stage, but no the patron of the peloton Cancellara decided that he can tell the riders and the officials how the stage should be raced AND the rider's respected Schleck enough to wait for him. Did he forget that another GC contender was down the road? If you are going to wait for Andy, then they should have waited for Vande Velde, given the uncertainty of the situation.

3. Cobbled stage luck and disrespect:

Okay, I admit, I think that the riders had every right in the world to ride away from Andy on the previous stage, but the fact is they didn't. Utter hypocricy by Saxobank to then not wait (or at least slow down) for not only frank schleck, but also the entire cohort of GC contenders (bar Evans) that got stuck behind Franks crash. I think on both stages they should have kept riding, but the fact is on one stage they waited for Andy, and on the next day Andy waited for no one at all.. Hypocricy.. The previous day Cancellara and Schleck told the peloton what to do. The next day, they did the opposite.

4. Disrespect to Evans

This is a minor issue, but still gives you an idea of his mentality. He has a point that Evans may struggle after the Giro, but it's not what he said, but how he says it that makes him look like a little ****a, which doesn't win him any respect really

5. Cockiness after winning a stage

Past GTs have shown that peaking in week one rarely indicates you're going to win a race two weeks later. Let's get the facts straight tho - he gained ten seconds!!! He didn't drop Contador 'verbier-style' with 5km to go. He made a really good move, at the end of the stage, and put in a great sprint for the stage win, but c'mon mate, your not Rasmussen as CN tried to spin it...

6. Sticking to his plan

I don't get this, nor do I get why he thinks he should tell his competitors that 'i have a plan' haha.. rookie error on his part... but tell us Andy, was the plan to eat the sh!t off the pavement one day, let the peloton wait for you, then the next day, when all GT contenders get stuck behind YOUR BROTHERS crash, you don't sit up and wait? Then is the plan to show no respect to a guy who has podiumed a GT 3 times? And then to top it off, you talk trash about how good you are and how bad the rider that has won his last 4 GTs must be....


Now I love arrogance, I really do, but there's arrogance and then there is arrogance, Andy-style... It's bordering on a Ricco-level of arrogance

I think he is going to get a rude awakening come the second week of mountains, and furthermore the time trial with a day to go. I won't remember his cockiness in two weeks time, but I reckon he might.

My new podium prediction:
1. Contador
2. Evans
3. Schleck

ps - I don't want this in the Clinic, but I predict he will fail a certain type of test very shortly or he will be caught red handed with enhancement products (mods: i'd rather that last comment get deleted than have this thread moved out of the racing section - it's predominantly a racing thread, but I want to throw that prediction out there)
 
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Inner Peace said:
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/schleck-confident-after-first-week

Forgive me if I'm being a little bit too harsh, but is Schleck really stupid or what? Since when do you win a GT after one week... and there is so much hypocricy in all his words it's just laughable

I'm fast losing any respect I had for the guy...

This is the series of events that I think he has forgotten about:

1. Prologue

A shocking prologue, which (despite the weather) is usually a very good indicator of one's form in the time trials

2. Waiting for Andy

The ENTIRE peloton (bar a few Garmin guys and Chavanel) came within an inch of literally stopping and waiting for him while he cried about how wet and slippery the road was. Plenty of contenders could have rode away on that stage, but no the patron of the peloton Cancellara decided that he can tell the riders and the officials how the stage should be raced AND the rider's respected Schleck enough to wait for him. Did he forget that another GC contender was down the road? If you are going to wait for Andy, then they should have waited for Vande Velde, given the uncertainty of the situation.

3. Cobbled stage luck and disrespect:

Okay, I admit, I think that the riders had every right in the world to ride away from Andy on the previous stage, but the fact is they didn't. Utter hypocricy by Saxobank to then not wait (or at least slow down) for not only frank schleck, but also the entire cohort of GC contenders (bar Evans) that got stuck behind Franks crash. I think on both stages they should have kept riding, but the fact is on one stage they waited for Andy, and on the next day Andy waited for no one at all.. Hypocricy.. The previous day Cancellara and Schleck told the peloton what to do. The next day, they did the opposite.

4. Disrespect to Evans

This is a minor issue, but still gives you an idea of his mentality. He has a point that Evans may struggle after the Giro, but it's not what he said, but how he says it that makes him look like a little ****a, which doesn't win him any respect really

5. Cockiness after winning a stage

Past GTs have shown that peaking in week one rarely indicates you're going to win a race two weeks later. Let's get the facts straight tho - he gained ten seconds!!! He didn't drop Contador 'verbier-style' with 5km to go. He made a really good move, at the end of the stage, and put in a great sprint for the stage win, but c'mon mate, your not Rasmussen as CN tried to spin it...

6. Sticking to his plan

I don't get this, nor do I get why he thinks he should tell his competitors that 'i have a plan' haha.. rookie error on his part... but tell us Andy, was the plan to eat the sh!t off the pavement one day, let the peloton wait for you, then the next day, when all GT contenders get stuck behind YOUR BROTHERS crash, you don't sit up and wait? Then is the plan to show no respect to a guy who has podiumed a GT 3 times? And then to top it off, you talk trash about how good you are and how bad the rider that has won his last 4 GTs must be....


Now I love arrogance, I really do, but there's arrogance and then there is arrogance, Andy-style... It's bordering on a Ricco-level of arrogance

I think he is going to get a rude awakening come the second week of mountains, and furthermore the time trial with a day to go. I won't remember his cockiness in two weeks time, but I reckon he might.

My new podium prediction:
1. Contador
2. Evans
3. Schleck

ps - I don't want this in the Clinic, but I predict he will fail a certain type of test very shortly or he will be caught red handed with enhancement products (mods: i'd rather that last comment get deleted than have this thread moved out of the racing section - it's predominantly a racing thread, but I want to throw that prediction out there)

Why do you call yourself "inner peace"?
 
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If you dont like the guy, just say so.. dont try and pack it in in all kind of crap... See nothing controversial about what he is saying tbh.

about Evans

"Talking about other GC riders, Schleck noted the performances of race leader Cadel Evans and others. "Cadel is certainly strong. He has a really hard Giro behind him, and I don't know if that is a good or bad thing for him. Yesterday was a hard climb but not a really steep climb. Of course he's a contender for the podium."

You really find this disrespectful? bit sensitive are we?


About luck on the cobbles. He used to ride for semi pro team located in Roubaix so assume he knows those roads better than most.

also nice with the doping allegations in the end, unlike Schelck you yourself comes across as a really stand up guy...
 
Cocky is the word. Getting a bit mouthy. But he seems to have backed off a bit in the last 24 hours. Must be reading the papers or trying to. Actually giving Evans and others some credit now. I just hope that the idiocy of the neutralised stage does not effect the overall result. That was just a Saxo Bank con and I cannot believe that the other team leaders bought it! In other words I hope he does not win and I don't think he will.
 
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Inner Peace. I agree 100%. Andy Schleck should be grateful he isn't next to Lance on GC. His arrogance has left a bad taste in my opinion. "I know I am the best climber." For that I hope Evans, Kreuziger, Menchov and Basso all take him down a notch and Contador shows him up well and truly.

As for the dope part. Agree as well. If anyone so far looks like they are juicing, it is Mr
"My Brother went to a gynaecologist" Andy Schleck. He sucks the entire season, Franck beats him in the prologue and now he is all here in the space of one week! Yeah boy...yeah. I hope for his sake he gets beaten in the Pyrenees because I for one will be calling foul if he motors away from everyone (he won't). Put it this way. People are talking about this year being clean and that in some ways the performances indicate it just might be. Schlecks behaviour and performances this year tell a great deal. Andy also has a reputation for being an idiot in front of the media. He brother is the sensible one. If any GC rider gets caught my money right now is on him.
 
Andy says he is sticking to his plan and would not have attacked earlier because he did not (or could not) attack earlier. It's all part of the plan :p

He may or may not do well, but I love it when they BS the "strategy" stuff for the journos. FCS, if he could have taken a minute, he would have. I dno't doubt there's a strategy, but it moves on the road, it's not fixed.
 
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Great ride by Andy today.

Certainly the strongest climber with Contador. Evans lost about 8 minutes.

He should buy that t-shirt: "I'm not arrogant, I'm just the best"


BS thread this TBH.
 
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Did he forget that another GC contender was down the road? If you are going to wait for Andy, then they should have waited for Vande Velde, given the uncertainty of the situation.


Vande Velde a GC contender? Pure comedic genious.
 
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Cerberus said:
Evans is reported by BMC twitter and Susan to have a broken forearm.

I miss the days when we had to wait for an official statement in order to confirm news. Twitter is such a lame and unprofessional way to deliver important information.

And yes Andy never took anything today, Cadel (sadly) simply gave it away today.
 
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Cerberus said:
Evans is reported by BMC twitter and Susan to have a broken forearm.

The real reason a lot of people dont like Schleck on this forum is that he is miles better than Cadel Evans and the fans cant handle it that there man just aint that good. Same applied to Contador just goes winning races.
Schleck comments about Evans were fact not disrespect. Evans was never a true contender this year and he had all his luck in the first week now injury it is back to the usual excuses of the last 3 years when the guy just isn't good enough. Was never good enough to lead a team at the tour and should have stayed at Omega Pharma as a domestique for Van Den Broeck.

Schleck isn't arrogant or disrespectful to anyone just young and excited cause he is going well. Now peoples quiet favourite riders are out lets hope he really takes the race to Contador and it goes down to the last stage. Should be a good battle for the podium also quite a few guys in it.
 
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Sound bite quotes may make him sound cocky and absurd, but when a entire interview is taken in context he seems like everyone else who takes on adventures = Sure of himself.

Def nice to see some racing and intrigue finally at TdF. I still think Contador has the stuff and is/may be sandbagging some and letting the kid have the glory and as well measuring him and setting him up. Could be wrong though and Schleck has the goods-which is great also, entertaining.

A few more days...
 
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nvpacchi said:
I miss the days when we had to wait for an official statement in order to confirm news. Twitter is such a lame and unprofessional way to deliver important information.

+ a GAZILLION
 
cyclingmad said:
The real reason a lot of people dont like Schleck on this forum is that he is miles better than Cadel Evans and the fans cant handle it that there man just aint that good. Same applied to Contador just goes winning races.
Schleck comments about Evans were fact not disrespect. Evans was never a true contender this year and he had all his luck in the first week now injury it is back to the usual excuses of the last 3 years when the guy just isn't good enough. Was never good enough to lead a team at the tour and should have stayed at Omega Pharma as a domestique for Van Den Broeck.

Schleck isn't arrogant or disrespectful to anyone just young and excited cause he is going well. Now peoples quiet favourite riders are out lets hope he really takes the race to Contador and it goes down to the last stage. Should be a good battle for the podium also quite a few guys in it.

He's arrogant, plain and simple. He's almost flippant in his attitude and statements to the media. I find it impossible to root for him. Now Frank I can root for and respect. Being young is no excuse for being just plain stupid when it comes to speaking before engaging one's brain. I'm personally hoping Contador toys with him until he blows up spectacularly, then I'd like to hear what he has to say to the media. Of course he's talented but apparently he's also a bit insecure if he feels the need to announce to the media how great he is.
 
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So, for all you Schleck haters, do you remember how a certain American racer performed in front of the media in his younger days? Xenophobia?

I would have forgotten his name (joke), but most TV seems more interested in him (LA) than the racing.