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Kwibus said:
I love the Schleck brothers.
No bull****, they just say what they think and I sure do appreciate it. Maybe they are arrogant, but so far he did what he said.

Also love their humor.

Totally agree.
 
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@"innerpeace"
You are such a fred. go back to golf, you understand nothing about cycling. zero. I'll give you a hint - dont compare a GT stage as equal or similar to a classic on day race because they use the same route. read some of the history of the sport and riders before you drivel. freds like you are why I hate forums. yeah, you have a peace of something up inside.
 
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Kwibus said:
I love the Schleck brothers.
No bull****, they just say what they think and I sure do appreciate it. Maybe they are arrogant, but so far he did what he said.

Also love their humor.

Does this one count as humor?

"The difference from this year to last year is that I could never drop Contador, but he can't drop me either," said Schleck. "The difference now is that I'm 41 seconds ahead of him and if he wants to win this he has to attack me."

Two words: Stage Nineteen

I've got no beef with Andy, don't find him particularly arrogant, he's delivered the goods so far in the race, etc... BUT - his elevator missed a floor or two if he really believes what he said today.
 
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Arrogance? It's In The Game!

It is funny to read you guys talk about arrogance in competition when that is part of it. They fight each other to be champion, to be the best. It isn't/wasn't a hobby for Michael Jordan, Roger Fedra, Dale Earnhardt, Serena Williams, David Letterman, Bill Gates, etc... Do you train in the gym, burn your lungs and tear your legs to be someones friend? No, it is war, you will win at all cost and God help anyone standing in your way. Have you never had passion for what you do, have you not ever had to over come adversity, have you never been challenged by someone who did not do the work you did? Did you coddle them or did you put it right and ride them into the ground. C-O-M-P-E-T-I-T-I-O-N folks, you shal layeth the smack down on that old lady racing in front of you at the grocery store! You got two items and here she is with a full basket, body checking you into the tabloids, beating you to the 12 items or less Express Lane? ***. (just kiding, let grandma go ahead, might be my grandma,Ha!)Sometimes when people fight/compete, they say mean things to each other. They undertsand it, you just have to toughen up to it.
As far as Andy's quote about Cadel not being a threat, well, if Andy was a commentator he would now be considered prophetic.
 
I can't really decide if he's arrogant or not, but at least Shrek jr is doing something. What did Leaky, Rabo and Retirement Shack do all day? The old folks (Basso, Menchov, LA, LL) watched while the kids went up the road. You'd think Rabo and Leaky with 2 riders each up there would try some tag teaming, but all they did was follow wheels until they fell off the pace.

A couple days ago, everybody said Shrek should've attacked sooner. Well, he did that today and shredded everybody except Alberto.

As far as Shrek's mentality, I believe performance is tied at least in part to your outlook. If he thinks he's going to fail, he will. He's being positive, and if that leads to him attacking on 2 mtn stages, let's see a few more interviews like the ones he's given.
 
powerste said:
Does this one count as humor?

"The difference from this year to last year is that I could never drop Contador, but he can't drop me either," said Schleck. "The difference now is that I'm 41 seconds ahead of him and if he wants to win this he has to attack me."

Two words: Stage Nineteen

I've got no beef with Andy, don't find him particularly arrogant, he's delivered the goods so far in the race, etc... BUT - his elevator missed a floor or two if he really believes what he said today.
Yeah, that one's funny. I don't think Contador tried to drop him even once.
 
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BeachBum said:
I can't really decide if he's arrogant or not, but at least Shrek jr is doing something. What did Leaky, Rabo and Retirement Shack do all day? The old folks (Basso, Menchov, LA, LL) watched while the kids went up the road. You'd think Rabo and Leaky with 2 riders each up there would try some tag teaming, but all they did was follow wheels until they fell off the pace.

A couple days ago, everybody said Shrek should've attacked sooner. Well, he did that today and shredded everybody except Alberto.

As far as Shrek's mentality, I believe performance is tied at least in part to your outlook. If he thinks he's going to fail, he will. He's being positive, and if that leads to him attacking on 2 mtn stages, let's see a few more interviews like the ones he's given.

pretty sure navarro shredded everyone.... schleck tried to shred contador, but contador didn't bite.

contador didn't even bother trying to attack, he knew the only way to make this work was a group effort.

I think you can see just how good AC is when he takes his first turn on the front when it is just him and AS... he is freaking flying, and that is when they took most of their time

AS is getting cockier by the day. Not only will AC crush him on stage 19, I bet he takes minutes out of him on tourmalet
 
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hey innerpeace

I may as well spell some of this out for you because you'll never figure it out on your own.

1-prologues mean very little, and he was unhappy - but you don't read the news

2- andy caught up (pretty quickly) - VDV packed it in - but you don't read the news. the peloton stopped riding because it was dangerous - not to 'wait for andy'

3- you need a dictionary

4- you need a dictionary. I would love to hear how many languages you speak fluently...

5- AS has said repeatedly he's waiting for the 3rd week but - you don't read the news. are you getting tired of being stupid yet?

6- his plan was to race in the third week, not the first - but since YOU DONT READ THE NEWS - you didn't catch that part again. winning the stage was there for the taking so he did - all the other riders were avoiding the effort to ride for the win or making a hash of it.

So, on to YOUR attitude: "innerpeace" of what? I think Dr Freud wants a word with you, you need therapy, and a dictionary.
 
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jfo-ny said:
I may as well spell some of this out for you because you'll never figure it out on your own.

1-prologues mean very little, and he was unhappy - but you don't read the news

2- andy caught up (pretty quickly) - VDV packed it in - but you don't read the news. the peloton stopped riding because it was dangerous - not to 'wait for andy'

3- you need a dictionary

4- you need a dictionary. I would love to hear how many languages you speak fluently...

5- AS has said repeatedly he's waiting for the 3rd week but - you don't read the news. are you getting tired of being stupid yet?

6- his plan was to race in the third week, not the first - but since YOU DONT READ THE NEWS - you didn't catch that part again. winning the stage was there for the taking so he did - all the other riders were avoiding the effort to ride for the win or making a hash of it.

So, on to YOUR attitude: "innerpeace" of what? I think Dr Freud wants a word with you, you need therapy, and a dictionary.

Don't know, nor do I care if you were actually speaking to me. But, just for fun.

1. Prologues mean very little, if you consider losing 30-60 seconds to your main rivals "very little." No wonder AS wasn't very happy, nobody is happy when they perform badly
2. I do read the news and contador specifically said that he told his team to stop working the minute he found out schleck was down, so it isn't as clear as you make it out to be. Some teams wanted to keep working
3. I have one, thank you very much. Not that I need one, since I have a computer and a google search is significantly more affective
4. I speak as many languages as is necessary to complete the tasks of my daily life and my business. I do very well and I am a very happy guy.
5. AS says a lot of things, like contador can't drop him. You say he is waiting for week 3, yet he keeps attacking at every opportunity. Sadly, he has only 41 seconds on AC and won't be able to hold on to them.
6. I read on the news that AC also plans to race the 3rd week, he hasn't attacked. Maybe he is more honest than AS?

innerpeace was certainly very harsh, but he obviously is annoyed by AS and this is an internet forum where multiple languages and dictionaries are not required. I doubt that they will help AS
 
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cyclingmad said:
Schleck comments about Evans were fact not disrespect. Evans was never a true contender this year and he had all his luck in the first week now injury it is back to the usual excuses of the last 3 years when the guy just isn't good enough. Was never good enough to lead a team at the tour and should have stayed at Omega Pharma as a domestique for Van Den Broeck.


How can you consider a guy who has finished second twice not good enough to lead a tour team? I guess only tour winners can lead a team. How many teams ride the tour?
 
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If I had to measure Andy's statements (or those of anyone else), I'd always use Indurain as a comparison. Andy is at the opposite end of Indurain, no matter how true his words may be.
 
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sometriguy said:
schleck tried to shred contador, but contador didn't bite.

contador didn't even bother trying to attack, he knew the only way to make this work was a group effort.

AS is getting cockier by the day. Not only will AC crush him on stage 19, I bet he takes minutes out of him on tourmalet

Schleck was thinking "If I already have to take the yellow, I might as well try and get some time on Alberto", whereas the situation was perfect for Contador.
As for Tourmalet I think that's really not going to happen. Maybe 30 seconds if Schleck has a bad day, but he'll have to break his arm for Contador to gain minutes.

jfo-ny said:
4- you need a dictionary. I would love to hear how many languages you speak fluently...

Agreed - in addition to Luxembourgish, Andy speaks German, French and English pretty well. None of them perfectly of course, but he still gives interviews in all three. That is greatly appreciated by reporters.

He speaks more languages than most of us ever will. Give the guy a break - he turned pro at the age of 19 and spent most of his youth training and racing. There are riders like Laurent Didier who have a University degree in Engineering but Andy just decided to follow his dream of becoming one of the best riders in the world instead of going to school for a long time. That doesn't mean he is stupid.

Last but not least, we're talking about a sport and you should judge the riders based on their performance, not on how they look or what they say.
I know the Schlecks have a lot of friends on the peloton, but I'm sure people on this forum know it better.
 
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Boy, horseface is really is setting himself up for a massive let down. Proclaiming that Contador can't drop him when he hasn't even tried is delusional.

Anyhow, looks all irrelevant as AC covered those moves easily and if what he says about peaking for the 3rd week is true, horseface has no chance.

Used to be a fan of the kid but he should just keep his mouth shut.
 
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I came in hoping he would win. Now I sincerely hope that I get to see him get dropped by AC. I just did not like the interview before stage 3.

Past that, at least there is a real race this year, as last year what we got was a 12 year old slap fight played out on twitter. This year we have a race, and I for one am glad that AS is riding well and talking smack. I do wish there were one more guy in the mix, but after today, it appears that is not the case.
 
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I used to be a follower of the younger Schleck. He's getting cocky by the hour. After the whole peloton waited for him. Reminds me of this ...

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santacruz said:
I don't understand where you guys are reading that AS is arrogant.. I've seen him interviewed many times he seems like a nice guy.

Some of these guys are just too difficult to please. Frankly, makes it easier to root for AS without a bunch of complainy fans mucking up every thread.
 
jfo-ny said:
@"innerpeace"
You are such a fred. go back to golf, you understand nothing about cycling. zero. I'll give you a hint - dont compare a GT stage as equal or similar to a classic on day race because they use the same route. read some of the history of the sport and riders before you drivel. freds like you are why I hate forums. yeah, you have a peace of something up inside.

Why not contribute to the discussion instead of insulting the OP? Either agree or disagree but getting personal only makes YOU look small. I say this because I don't see anything in your post that says you are making your statements in jest or as light-hearted humor. Just more than a bit harsh and unnecessarily so.
 
Burnette said:
It is funny to read you guys talk about arrogance in competition when that is part of it. They fight each other to be champion, to be the best. It isn't/wasn't a hobby for Michael Jordan, Roger Fedra, Dale Earnhardt, Serena Williams, David Letterman, Bill Gates, etc... Do you train in the gym, burn your lungs and tear your legs to be someones friend? No, it is war, you will win at all cost and God help anyone standing in your way. Have you never had passion for what you do, have you not ever had to over come adversity, have you never been challenged by someone who did not do the work you did? Did you coddle them or did you put it right and ride them into the ground. C-O-M-P-E-T-I-T-I-O-N folks, you shal layeth the smack down on that old lady racing in front of you at the grocery store! You got two items and here she is with a full basket, body checking you into the tabloids, beating you to the 12 items or less Express Lane? ***. (just kiding, let grandma go ahead, might be my grandma,Ha!)Sometimes when people fight/compete, they say mean things to each other. They undertsand it, you just have to toughen up to it.
As far as Andy's quote about Cadel not being a threat, well, if Andy was a commentator he would now be considered prophetic.

According to Armstrong it was a hobby last year. You sound like a badly written attempt at a Gatorade commercial.;)

As far as the competitors "occasionally saying mean things to each other", the key word is "occasionally". It is not the norm. Many a competitor functions quite well without that need and the others in many instances are simply hyping the event they are soon to take part in.
 
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Thoughtforfood said:
I came in hoping he would win. Now I sincerely hope that I get to see him get dropped by AC. I just did not like the interview before stage 3.

Past that, at least there is a real race this year, as last year what we got was a 12 year old slap fight played out on twitter. This year we have a race, and I for one am glad that AS is riding well and talking smack. I do wish there were one more guy in the mix, but after today, it appears that is not the case.

Amen. I was a fan last year but this year it seems his mouth has grown quite a bit. I hope he puts his feet on the ground after realizing that he couldn't drop Contador today.
 
icefire said:
If I had to measure Andy's statements (or those of anyone else), I'd always use Indurain as a comparison. Andy is at the opposite end of Indurain, no matter how true his words may be.


+1
Indurain was almost regal in his entire demeanor. He would be a fine example for Andy to follow. Following his brother's lead would be a step in the right direction.
 
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See, you do it too.

Angliru, oh you are soooo mean! You are so arrogant in critique of my words, you should pattern yourself after someone nicer! Just kidding, I can take a ribbing and so can the people who compete for a living. But seriously now, alittle trash talking and everybody gets upset? Really? Man, cycling needs to toughen up. In an article in a recent cycling mag(Velo News, I think), Tyler Phinney wrote about his training with Team Radio Shack. He just gushed about how one of the new riders brought him a stuffed animal, which made him an instant friend! Sheesh. Is that what you want? Maybe all the GC contenders could do a sleep over on rest days and tell each other ghost stories.
Why is it not OK for an athelete to express him/herself just as you did to my post? It's OK, it didn't kill me(it was humorous) and yeah, such things do hype a sport, it is why we watch. Conflict/drama adds to it. We don't watch a race for the bicycle, the car or the boat, it is the drama, the hopes, the tension of competition. It's just that some are "A" type personalities. Killer instinct is a plus in some sports, I think Cadel couuld use some of it. He comes off as an emotional loser with no balls, no fight in him.
If people can't stand seeing men act like men there is always sword fencing, plenty of empty seats and they treat each other like they are going steady.
 
My point regarding Andy Schleck was based on the fact that he somehow he believes he is the best climber in the world or at least among the Tour's gc contenders based on results of one stage, and to be more specific, a 1 km stretch on a minimal slope. Now when he shows he can drop Contador on a real climb like Contador did to him twice in last year's Tour then he can talk. Otherwise he is simply delusional and making himself look silly. Silly like he sounded when after getting dropped by Contador last year he made the same statement. Either that or he needs to try out some new material because his standup act is getting pretty stale.
 
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Oh no he didn't!

Dang son, you gotta lot of fight in you! Yeah, Andy couldn't out kick Alberto last year with his brother's help and even now, he can ride with Alberto, but can he leave him? I don't know, hard to say after today, hard to judge how well Alberto feels. The bigger revelation has been the Astana Team. I am impressed so far, they are stronger than the negative hype against them. If it comes down to Team Asatana vs Team Saxxo Bank in the mountains plus who is better in the TT, Alberto looks good. I think Andy should still talk trash if he wants. He undertsands that he will have to back it up. Geez, everbody's got their panties in a wad about Andy's luke warm comment, what do you think of the sprinters this year? Now they have been doin' some trash talking this year! And the sport isn't worse off for it.