Should the grupetto have been DQ'd on Stage 15?

[Asero831]

We all know the rules.
18% of the winners time is the TL

There are no reason to hold back the rules. The race went on fair and square.

 

[Miburo]

Hopefully they also ban Astana for their riding today

I don't think they'll apply the rules sadly enough

 

[Brullnux]

Isn't there the rule that if a group of more than 25% of the peloton are outside the TL they all stay?

 

[DFA123]

He almost certainly will, and he certainly shouldn't. Joke not enforcing time limits. All of those riders could have made it within time today if they wanted to, they've just chosen to have a rest day.

 

[burning]

I hope that the organizers will kick them out and this will mean that direct energie would be completely gone, which would be hilarious.

 

[Scarponi]

Purposefully breaking the rules to save energy should be punished. Not like it was three HC climbs in the snow

 

[LaFlorecita]

Apparently 44 minutes gone and still 93 riders missing

 

[Asero831]

Sergi López-Egea ‏@sergi_lopezegea
Froome's last man is 42minutes down

 

[Alexandre B.]

Gadret would've loved that.

 

[Asero831]

Hope the organizers do the right thing and we are here for an epic conclusion.

Froomey battling alone for a podium place. What a story

 

[carolina]

Re:

Isn't there the rule that if a group of more than 25% of the peloton are outside the TL they all stay?

I've checked the Vuelta and the UCI rules and there is no such rule. The only thing it says is that the comissaires can extend the time limit if there are extraordinary circumstances.

 

[Asero831]

Most of the riders led by Sky train is 54 minutes down.

35% of the allowable 18% for the time limit.. These riders opted to have a rest day.
It will be unfair to let them continue the race.

 

[Brullnux]

Re: Re:

Isn't there the rule that if a group of more than 25% of the peloton are outside the TL they all stay?

I've checked the Vuelta and the UCI rules and there is no such rule. The only thing it says is that the comissaires can extend the time limit if there are extraordinary circumstances.

Ok, thanks

 

[Asero831]

Re: Re:

Isn't there the rule that if a group of more than 25% of the peloton are outside the TL they all stay?

I've checked the Vuelta and the UCI rules and there is no such rule. The only thing it says is that the comissaires can extend the time limit if there are extraordinary circumstances.

We just have extraordinary riders.
Epic race!

 

[BigMac]

Tabloid OP.

Proper question: Should those who came outside time limit be DQ'd?

They won't, by the way. Teams who have 2 or more riders caught just throw a tantrum, bully and threaten the organisation and commissaires to pull out. For obvious [monetary and advertising] reasons, they are 'forced' to accept the terms.

 

[Inquitus]

Generally speaking this large a group of riders is never excluded for being outside of time, just because people hate Sky isn't a special reason to change the way this rule is applied.

 

[LaFlorecita]

They're in. Approximately 90 riders at 54 minutes.
They can't send home such a huge group, but I feel it would be justified anyway, they clearly took it easy because they knew they were with too many to be sent home.

 

[Scarponi]

Re:

Generally speaking this large a group of riders is never excluded for being outside of time, just because people hate Sky isn't a special reason to change the way this rule is applied.

Taking it easy on purpose to try and break the veulta later though is terrible sportsmanship

 

[DFA123]

If they are not going to enforce the time limit, how about banning any riders who finished outside from winning the stage the following day? Those riders, who have essentially broken the rules of the race, now have a massive advantage in the stage tomorrow; they should at least be deprived of that opportunity.

 

[King Boonen]

He will, but he shouldn't. They need to start applying this rule properly.

 

[roundabout]

Re:

If they are not going to enforce the time limit, how about banning any riders who finished outside from winning the stage the following day? Those riders, who have essentially broken the rules of the race, now have a massive advantage in the stage tomorrow; they should at least be deprived of that opportunity.

And how is that going to work?

You can cross the line first, but won't be on the podium? Good luck explaining that to the average follower.

And yes, they should be DQed. Ridiculous to lose that much time in a not particularly difficult 3 hour stage regardless of what happened yesterday.

 

[hrotha]

I don't care how fast the stage was raced: the peloton will lose 54 minutes only if nobody bothers trying to make the cut. That's ridiculous and shouldn't be allowed or encouraged.

The time limits are already ridiculously generous as they are. They need to be enforced.

 

[DFA123]

Re: Re:

If they are not going to enforce the time limit, how about banning any riders who finished outside from winning the stage the following day? Those riders, who have essentially broken the rules of the race, now have a massive advantage in the stage tomorrow; they should at least be deprived of that opportunity.

And how is that going to work?

You can cross the line first, but won't be on the podium? Good luck explaining that to the average follower.

And yes, they should be DQed. Ridiculous to lose that much time in a not particularly difficult 3 hour stage regardless of what happened yesterday.

Pretty much, yes.

Or perhaps a better option: The amount of time they finish outside the time limit today, they have to start behind the rest of the field tomorrow.

 

[Googolplex]

If the percentage of eliminated riders rises above 20% of starters in the stage, permitted finishing times may be increased upon the decision of the Stewards’ Committee, with the agreement of the race management.

There's that in 2012 TdF rules, but not in 2016 TdF nor Vuelta rules.

But I can't see that many riders being kicked out anyway.

 

[Pantani_lives]

They did it once in Tirreno, and finished the race with only a few dozen riders. Many riders had taken a day off, and the organizers didn't like it.