Should Wiggins lose his hour record due to cheating?

[the sceptic]

seems like many people are saying his bike and position was illegal. Will Cookson launch an investigation? Independently of course.

 

[Netserk]

It's all okay, the UCI has approved Sir Bradley's cheating behaviour. Nothing to see here, move along.

 

[djpbaltimore]

Very informative post as usual.

'Seems like many people' Such as?

'his bike and position was illegal' Details?

 

[Pricey_sky]

Take it off him, then he can go do it at altitude and smash 65.5km

 

[Pippo_San]

Can't even believe how *** this is.
Haters gonna hate.

 

[Nick C.]

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wiggins-hour-record-attempt-was-illegal-says-dowsetts-coach

 

[the sceptic]

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It's all okay, the UCI has approved Sir Bradley's cheating behaviour. Nothing to see here, move along.

Too bad. I was hoping there was something that could be done.

 

[LaFlorecita]

I don't really give a *** but if UCI allowed him to break the rules simply because he's "Sir Bradley Wiggins" then take away the record.

 

[djpbaltimore]

The coach of the rider whose record was just broken might have a teensy bit of a conflict of interest on this particular topic.

 

[the sceptic]

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I don't really give a **** but if UCI allowed him to break the rules simply because he's "Sir Bradley Wiggins" then take away the record.

and what about those poor skyfans who spent all their money on the Wiggins rapha jersey.. it's falling apart already.

 

[Eagle]

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The coach of the rider whose record was just broken might have a teensy bit of a conflict of interest on this particular topic.

So you think he is lying?

 

[djpbaltimore]

Lying? I don't know. Personally, It feels more like a coach complaining about a referee's decision that cost his team the game. Rules are subject to interpretation, and riders will push the envelope as far as possible. From the article, it seems like he thinks the rule should be written in a different manner than it is.

Steve Collins, "For attempts like that it should all be production available so you can buy it off the shelf."

 

[Eagle]

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Lying? I don't know. Personally, It feels more like a coach complaining about a referee's decision that cost his team the game. Rules are subject to interpretation, and riders will push the envelope as far as possible. From the article, it seems like he thinks the rule should be written in a different manner than it is.

Steve Collins, "For attempts like that it should all be production available so you can buy it off the shelf."

http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/wiggins-hour-record-attempt-was-illegal-says-dowsetts-coach

Article 1.3.007 of the UCI regulations state that a bike “designed especially for the attainment of a particular performance (record or other) shall be not authorised.” According to the UCI’s rules, the bike must become commercially available within nine months of Wiggins’ attempt.

 

[lemon cheese cake]

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Lying? I don't know. Personally, It feels more like a coach complaining about a referee's decision that cost his team the game. Rules are subject to interpretation, and riders will push the envelope as far as possible. From the article, it seems like he thinks the rule should be written in a different manner than it is.

Steve Collins, "For attempts like that it should all be production available so you can buy it off the shelf."

You can't buy Dowsett's custom made TT bike adapted from the Canyon road TT bike!

Plus it wouldn't fit on a shelf.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

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Can't even believe how *** this is.
Haters gonna hate.

Cheaters gonna cheat. "Sir" Wigans is one of them.

 

[SeriousSam]

For Bradley's sake I hope he didn't cheat. Because if he's a cheat, then he's a cheat, he is not half a cheat. You wouldn't say, 'I'll cheat here but I'm not going to cheat over there; I'll cheat on a Monday but not on a Tuesday'.

 

[djpbaltimore]

I read that part and to me, the rule itself has a huge loophole. Available commercially in 9 months is different than Collins' suggestion that the bike itself should be available at the time of the attempt. IDK, it seems like a sporting 'gray area' prone to semantics and interpretation. And if Dowsett's ride was also custom-made, then Collins is still lacking credibility in my book. The OP said 'many' were questioning the veracity of the ride. I would be open to hearing critiques from more neutral experts.

 

[Jonhard]

The Clinic's hit the main boards!

God, krishna and allah save us.

 

[FoxxyBrown1111]

Jonhard tell us all where clinic stuff is mentioned. I don´t see it.

 

[argyllflyer]

There were a few versions of Dowsett's bike, and one will be sold for a silly price. He got one and another will be raffled off.

 

[cellardoor]

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I read that part and to me, the rule itself has a huge loophole. Available commercially in 9 months is different than Collins' suggestion that the bike itself should be available at the time of the attempt. IDK, it seems like a sporting 'gray area' prone to semantics and interpretation. And if Dowsett's ride was also custom-made, then Collins is still lacking credibility in my book. The OP said 'many' were questioning the veracity of the ride. I would be open to hearing critiques from more neutral experts.

I think the point is that handlebars molded specifically to the shape of Wiggins arms are never going to be commercially available. However, there may be a distinction between fundamental features of the bike and user customisations, such as paint job or attaching a bike computer.

 

[djpbaltimore]

Exactly my point about the loophole in the rule. Dowsett's bike will be 'sold commercially', to fulfill the letter of the law. I imagine something similar will be done with Wiggins' ride.

 

[cellardoor]

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There were a few versions of Dowsett's bike, and one will be sold for a silly price. He got one and another will be raffled off.

If the rules say the bike has to be commercially available and only 2 or 3 are produced and sold, then to my mind that is gaming the system.

 

[MatParker117]

piss off

 

[Richeypen]

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piss off

^^^^ This ^^^^