Signs that the Apocalypse are upon us

Riis: "...The season is about to start and we have to be ready and believe that Alberto will be our captain in 2011. I hope the decision will be fair. But if he happened to be punished, it wouldn’t mean that he’s guilty.”
oh sure, Bjarne. Whatever you reckon's a fair thing...
 
Feb 14, 2010
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In some other cases, WADA and other agencies have admitted that the positives were due to contamination of supplements (she had some left in the bottle they were able to test) or Chinese meat, or Mexican meat, not doping for performance enhancement, but punished the athletes anyway.

So being punished by an anti-doping agency doesn't mean that cheating took place, and innocence doesn't always keep people from being punished. Riis acknowledging that is hardly a sign of the Apocalypse.
 
Dec 1, 2010
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Agreed. I think Riis was using "guilty" in the context of "intentionally cheating", not "guilty" of unknowingly ingesting a banned substance.

I would say that in the second context, Contador is "guilty" whether they punish him or not. He had a banned substance in his body. No argument from anyone on that.
 
May 24, 2010
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"If The Glove Don't Fit, You Must Aquit!"

Bjarns recnt comment reminds me of the comment by Oj Simpsons Lawyer
Johnnie Cochran,

"If the Glove Don't Fit, You Must Aquit!"
 
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People have become angered by my references to the OJ case. But I'll do it again here anyway (hopefully with a better explanation). It's called rationalization. It's how "people who regularly do bad things" are able to live with themselves. In Riis' case, he's gotta find a way to rationalize a way to turn Contador's situation into a just one.

OJ was so emphatic about his innocence because (due to rationalization) he'd convinced himself that he WAS justified in doing what he did. So in his mind, it was OK to say "not guilty".

Riis needs to keep his own charade going, so he'll think and say what needs to be said to get the desired outcome. AC is his last hope, as the rest of his team left him for better quality dope source in Luxembourg.
 
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theswordsman said:
In some other cases, WADA and other agencies have admitted that the positives were due to contamination of supplements (she had some left in the bottle they were able to test) or Chinese meat, or Mexican meat, not doping for performance enhancement, but punished the athletes anyway.

So being punished by an anti-doping agency doesn't mean that cheating took place, and innocence doesn't always keep people from being punished. Riis acknowledging that is hardly a sign of the Apocalypse.
I find it hard to believe the contaminated meat story.
A better story for me would be ------- Maybe the shake weights caused the trouble? Contamination on the grips, after all he had to workout the hands for the pistol salute.

I think the deal is that you are accountable for what goes into your body. So maybe that is the deal with the punishment issue?
 
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Glenn_Wilson said:
I find it hard to believe the contaminated meat story.
A better story for me would be ------- Maybe the shake weights caused the trouble? Contamination on the grips, after all he had to workout the hands for the pistol salute.

I think the deal is that you are accountable for what goes into your body. So maybe that is the deal with the punishment issue?
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