More evidence of the prevalence of doping within professional cycling.
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sinkewitz-claims-systematic-doping-at-quick-step
http://www.cyclingnews.com/news/sinkewitz-claims-systematic-doping-at-quick-step
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I agree, but this is the part that really annoys me:issoisso said:I'll just repeat what I've stated many times elsewhere: of all the cancers in this sport, Patrick Lefévère is the physical embodiment of them all.
Why?anubisza said:He confessed this in NOVEMBER 2007. And _now_ they decide to announce it, 5 days before the Tour starts. That makes me SO angry.
samb01 said:Why?
I love it. The more attention there is on doping the better.
That is, unless you're happy with the way things are.
Yup.anubisza said:He confessed this in NOVEMBER 2007. And _now_ they decide to announce it, 5 days before the Tour starts. That makes me SO angry.
samb01 said:Why?
I love it. The more attention there is on doping the better.
That is, unless you're happy with the way things are.
Jasper said:Yup.
I'm no fan of Lefevre either, but this looks more and more like there's a vendetta going on against him, and that he has to be crushed publicly at the very moment the cycling public rate is at its peak. The whole Boonen farce, now this story with the very convenient timing. Thing is, they're punishing his team as well, and all the riders in it that have not that much to do with the alledged accusations. I mean, he's not the only dubious manager in contemporary cycling, nor is he the only arrogant ***. But he always seems to serve as a scarecrow to divert attention from other scandals going on.
And if there's systematic 'doping' going on within Quickstep, it sure as hell won't be any different from what goes on in other teams.
anubisza said:because the tour isn't about doping. it's about racing.
anubisza said:Hopefully not now, but two years ago i'm sure, as you say, their doping practices were no different to any other team.
It's just the timing of this that really gets me down. Everyone seems to save it up until just before the Tour to have maximum impact.
They won't be happy until every last sponsor leaves, and the Tour is back to being amateur again.
Thoughtforfood said:What I also find funny are Lefevre's comments about doping in the wake of things like Landis' testosterone positive. I thought at the time how incredibly hypocritical it was for anyone who was a DS for Museew to show such moral outrage. He is also a venereal disease to cycling. Syphilis actually because his role in the whole thing infects the entire system.
I would like to see him go down in flames personally.
Alpe d'Huez said:I'm almost entirely certain Patrick told the truth. Why it took this long to come out, who knows, but at least it did.
Musseuw was the tip of the iceberg. As I've said before, don't blame the riders entirely. After Musseuw retired, he strongly hinted that doping was a much bigger problem than revealed and that "I want to help". But no one wanted to listen, they just wanted to throw him under the bus. Well, believe me people, riders on this level rarely dope alone.
Lefevre comes from the old school of racing/doping his entire career. Despite his huffy, puffy busts of outrage, he's done a masterful job of creating an atmosphere that's ripe for doping, and conveniently looking the other way - when he's not helping.
Indurain said:I think the UCI should run a test. Allow open doping for one year with no penalties. But for safety, no hemoacrit levels over 50%. And see how it goes.
I know one thing for certain, the average speeds, etc will remain identical. We may just see some newer nobodies raise up the ladder a little.
Alpe d'Huez said:I'm almost entirely certain Patrick told the truth. Why it took this long to come out, who knows, but at least it did.
Musseuw was the tip of the iceberg. As I've said before, don't blame the riders entirely. After Musseuw retired, he strongly hinted that doping was a much bigger problem than revealed and that "I want to help". But no one wanted to listen, they just wanted to throw him under the bus. Well, believe me people, riders on this level rarely dope alone.
Lefevre comes from the old school of racing/doping his entire career. Despite his huffy, puffy busts of outrage, he's done a masterful job of creating an atmosphere that's ripe for doping, and conveniently looking the other way - when he's not helping.
RDV4ROUBAIX said:Johan and Gianluca is obvious, but was Andrea ever caught up in that? I don't recall him ever being busted or implicated. If you must let me down, do it easy, Tafi is one of my all-time fav's.
Thoughtforfood said:I don't know about Tafi, but I agree that he was beautiful on a bike. My real point was similar to the one I would be making if I posted a picture of the Gewiss 1-2-3 (race and year are eluding me today). Nice team ride, but come one? In a race THAT freaking hard?
Thoughtforfood said:I don't know about Tafi, but I agree that he was beautiful on a bike.