Sky may have already done the best transfer of 2011

[ingsve]

I expect that Urans role in this years Tour will be even freer than Löfkvists role was in last years Tour. Löfkvist had sort of a protected role but clearly rode for Wiggins at least until it was clear that Wiggins wasn't going to have the same year as 2009.

 

[hfer07]

sorry ryo you will see...henao and uran will work for wiggins.this is very sad.

that's my concern too-or to be derailed to become a sprinter or a different type of rider where there is no need to--that would be a waste of talent if that ever happens. on the positive side though-Henao going to Movistar wouldn't have been fruitful for him, since they're awaiting for Valverde to return and basically means everybody is set to ride at his disposal. Perhaps Henao & Uran may find more freedom in another races like the Giro & the Vuelta, since Wiggins is only aiming Tour Glory and he said he's looking to retire after the Olympics.

 

[hrotha]

I do say it would be bad for henao to be used as domestique because you take out their goals and dreams with that. henao wants to be the first colombian to win the tour and to make him a helper could crush those dream (momentarily)

but it will never get this far because we can all see wiggins has no real business in the mountains. he will never come close to winning the tour I think.

If Henao's morale is crushed because of that, he needs to grow up. He's a professional.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

If Henao's morale is crushed because of that, he needs to grow up. He's a professional.

this is exatcly the reason why colombians can fail under european guidance.you can't force them into being something they are not, they ride with passion and aggression, taking that out of someone takes being a rider out of him.

 

[Jamsque]

You have to pay your dues, you can't expect to get a protected leadership role in your first season in Europe no matter how badly you have been stomping the competition in South America.

 

[Ryo Hazuki]

You have to pay your dues, you can't expect to get a protected leadership role in your first season in Europe no matter how badly you have been stomping the competition in South America.

I'm sure Henao will, otherwise he wouldn't have signed. Also he will be expensive rider relatively compared to other helpers so sky will expect something too.

 

[hrotha]

this is exatcly the reason why colombians can fail under european guidance.you can't force them into being something they are not, they ride with passion and aggression, taking that out of someone takes being a rider out of him.

Then Colombians collectively need to grow up. Being passionate about cycling has nothing to do with working for others and climbing your way up the ladder.

 

[Michele]

I'm sure Henao will, otherwise he wouldn't have signed. Also he will be expensive rider relatively compared to other helpers so sky will expect something too.

Under Braidsford or whatever is called guidance?

 

[ingsve]

Under Braidsford or whatever is called guidance?

Brailsford isn't that hands on anymore they have others that do most of the coaching. The one that would most likely be giving guidance would be Bobby Julich since he's the one with most GC experience of the people they have.

 

[Waterloo Sunrise]

Peter Kennaugh needs plenty of mountain domestiques.

Him or his brother would require the mother of all clinic threads to get near the TDF podium.

 

[Parrulo]

If Henao's morale is crushed because of that, he needs to grow up. He's a professional.

Then Colombians collectively need to grow up. Being passionate about cycling has nothing to do with working for others and climbing your way up the ladder.

my thoughts exactly. all that "passion" "crushed dreams" stuff sounds like a bunch of BS to me

columbians need to man up or GTFO

 

[hatcher]

Pete getting written off before he even attempts to go up a hill in his 2nd year?

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

the biggest problem with colombians is what Quintana said in an interview after catalunya recently: the speed on the flat is so much higher than in south america, so they are already too tired to climb as well as they normally can..

Some riders adapt and overgrow this problem, some never do. F.ex Jesus Hernandez always owns everyone on training camp climbs, even Contador, but in a race you'll never see him perform that way. He gets tired so much on the flat he can do jack sh*t

 

[TRDean]

the biggest problem with colombians is what Quintana said in an interview after catalunya recently: the speed on the flat is so much higher than in south america, so they are already too tired to climb as well as they normally can..

Some riders adapt and overgrow this problem, some never do. F.ex Jesus Hernandez always owns everyone on training camp climbs, even Contador, but in a race you'll never see him perform that way. He gets tired so much on the flat he can do jack sh*t

If thats the case then it is something that can be learned and trained to improve. I'm with a few guys that if Henao is crushed by not being a leader he is not ready to the European peleton. That passion, etc. sounds like a spoiled brat to me...but I do believe he has had conversations with the team and knows exactly what his role will be...so I doubt he will be crushed at all. Good luck to him!

 

[kurtinsc]

I'm looking forward to seeing how he does. I've been hearing about him for a while and he's done well in Columbia. It should be interesting.

 

[hatcher]

If thats the case then it is something that can be learned and trained to improve. I'm with a few guys that if Henao is crushed by not being a leader he is not ready to the European peleton. That passion, etc. sounds like a spoiled brat to me...but I do believe he has had conversations with the team and knows exactly what his role will be...so I doubt he will be crushed at all. Good luck to him!

Got to imagine he has talked to Uran too.

 

[Escarabajo]

my thoughts exactly. all that "passion" "crushed dreams" stuff sounds like a bunch of BS to me

columbians need to man up or GTFO

Why do all Colombians have to pay for some comments in this forum??

 

[Anonymous]

sorry ryo you will see...henao and uran will work for wiggins.this is very sad.

Im not sure, but you might find that sky's "british winner of the tour de france within five years" has been rephrased and the "british" bit has been dropped.
Now its the first "british team to win a grand tour"

 

[Parrulo]

Why do all Colombians have to pay for some comments in this forum??

obviously i only meant columbian cyclists. . . where did you get that idea?

 

[Escarabajo]

obviously i only meant columbian cyclists. . . where did you get that idea?

Even with that small group, I think you are generalizing too much.

I don't think that is the case for the majority of them. I am not even sure if that is the case for few of them anyway. Somehow I feel that most Colombian cyclists are easy to work with and understand the place in their teams. Well I hope I am right.

 

[maltiv]

I think the management of Sky has realized that unless a route similar, or even easier, than the 2009 TDF is created, then Wiggins has no realistic chance of winning the TDF. Even if a 2009 route is created then he still can't win unless Contador is absent...Considering they are designing the routes to increase Andy Schleck's chances of winning, such a route is not very likely. So I don't think you should worry too much that Uran and Henao will be domestiques.

Can't imagine any other brits being able to do it either, although I'll give Peter Kennaugh a small chance if he starts improving massively very soon.

 

[greenedge]

i think they have already made a good transfer this yr. not long term but still a rider with immense talent and potential who just like Cadel has been mishandled. Michael Rogers. If he can focus on the TDF he could maybe go top 10GC. Everyone in Australia hailed him as our GC hope but his career has stagnated at htc. He goes well in a strong team and sky will be focusing on GC for Wiggins even if it's misguided. Hopefully rogers can repeat his performance of 2006 with T-Mobile

 

[will10]

Rogers has already said he will not be focussing on Grand Tours anymore, and will look to take his chances in 1 week races. I think the chances of getting a top 10 at the Tour for Rogers now are slim to none.

 

[Libertine Seguros]

I don't think any stage finishes are close enough to Freiburg for that.

 

[ergmonkey]

While it pains me to praise JV for almost any reason these days, Sep Vanmarcke was the best acquisition of 2011.

Best of luck to Henao. That team desperately needs some panache in the grand tours.