• The Cycling News forum is still looking to add volunteer moderators with. If you're interested in helping keep our discussions on track, send a direct message to @SHaines here on the forum, or use the Contact Us form to message the Community Team.

    In the meanwhile, please use the Report option if you see a post that doesn't fit within the forum rules.

    Thanks!

So No THOR/Phinney In This Years Tour?

Mar 25, 2013
5,389
0
0
86TDFWinner said:
Did I read that right? Why isn't Phinney in it? What is Cadel thinking not having either there?

Wrong subforum mate.

Just move it to the PRR section.
 
Aug 16, 2011
10,819
2
0
Phinney raced the Giro (most of it), and he's focused on the worlds TT for the second half of the season so will probably race the Vuelta.
 
Mar 25, 2013
5,389
0
0
He would be extremely valuable for the TTT but other than that he wouldn't be of much use if at all in a supporting role for a Evans. That role just doesn't suit him. I like Phinney but he's hopless at climbing in the same manner as Kittel.
 
gooner said:
He would be extremely valuable for the TTT but other than that he wouldn't be of much use if at all in a supporting role for a Evans. That role just doesn't suit him. I like Phinney but he's hopless at climbing in the same manner as Kittel.

That's kinda why I was asking...I get that Phinney is concentrating elsewhere, but at the very least couldn't Cadel use him as a domestique?
 
86TDFWinner said:
That's kinda why I was asking...I get that Phinney is concentrating elsewhere, but at the very least couldn't Cadel use him as a domestique?

Evans and BMC prefer the experienced grand tour domestiques of the past few seasons which makes sense. Phinney was ill during the Giro and did not finish the race. I think you will see Phinney in there next year if he keeps progressing and riding like he did in the Milan San Remo. Maybe he will ride the Vuelta to get himself in shape for the World's TT.
 
Dec 10, 2012
139
0
0
the far biggest question is: why was Frank not included?climbs as good as anybody on the team but TjvG and Evans himself.
 
Aug 16, 2011
10,819
2
0
Sophistic82 said:
the far biggest question is: why was Frank not included?climbs as good as anybody on the team but TjvG and Evans himself.

That's the question I want answered. It shouldn't be too much trouble for him to bring the climbing form he was showing in Switzerland to the Tour. Will probably do the Vuelta now, and would be cool to see him in a role of leadership or a free role.
 
Aug 16, 2011
160
0
0
movingtarget said:
Evans and BMC prefer the experienced grand tour domestiques of the past few seasons which makes sense. Phinney was ill during the Giro and did not finish the race. I think you will see Phinney in there next year if he keeps progressing and riding like he did in the Milan San Remo. Maybe he will ride the Vuelta to get himself in shape for the World's TT.
I think BMC should be renamed Evans Racing Team. He seems to get what ever he wants at the expense of all other riders.

No doubt this will happen all the time until Evans retires.
 
Oct 16, 2009
3,864
0
0
Phinney is not strong enough and Thor has had another rubbish season. He may be coming in to form now but that's too much of a gamble. He's a crap domestique anyway (not that Gilbert is much better).
 
Normandy said:
I think BMC should be renamed Evans Racing Team. He seems to get what ever he wants at the expense of all other riders.

No doubt this will happen all the time until Evans retires.

Well when you win world titles and the Tour and podium 5 grand tours I suppose you do have some pull with team selections. BMC would be making good money out of Evans with bike sales and whatever.
 
Aug 16, 2011
160
0
0
movingtarget said:
Well when you win world titles and the Tour and podium 5 grand tours I suppose you do have some pull with team selections. BMC would be making good money out of Evans with bike sales and whatever.
Making money out of Evans with bike sales - maybe in Australia but not Europe.

No such blind loyalty for Wiggins at Sky - for once I think Sky did something right.
 
Dec 30, 2009
138
0
0
Normandy said:
Making money out of Evans with bike sales - maybe in Australia but not Europe.

No such blind loyalty for Wiggins at Sky - for once I think Sky did something right.


Evans stood on the podium at the Giro, Wiggins didn't even finish the race. Your comparison is useless.
 
Normandy said:
I think BMC should be renamed Evans Racing Team. He seems to get what ever he wants at the expense of all other riders.

No doubt this will happen all the time until Evans retires.

Lol, I have to agree. Sorry if I'm not completely up to date here, but why isn't Thor riding for them either? I read the article here, and I know he hasn't ridden well this season, but I still question the real reason as to why he's not riding. Is it because he(Ochowicz)sees him as a threat to Cadel?
 
Aug 16, 2011
10,819
2
0
It was a choice between either Thor or Phil for the spot on the team. And Phil wears the rainbow stripes, so...he got the spot. Got the spot fairly easily I would imagine.

Good on Thor for showing BMC what they'll be missing at the Tour though. :D
 
Jun 12, 2013
425
0
0
Afrank said:
Good on Thor for showing BMC what they'll be missing at the Tour though. :D

What'd Thor win :) ?
Not sure why no phinney, would've been great in the ttt and on the flat stages for BMC.
Was rather confused as to why they didin't include frank either. He was great at the tds. Bmc don't have that many mountain domestiques in their squad (i think there was only two or three), so having another climbing domestique like frank would make a difference for evans/TJ imo
 
Aug 16, 2011
10,819
2
0
Norwegian national RR champs. Went solo with 25 km to go and just barely held on for the win.
 
Phinney has never been a serious and consistent domestique and is also unreliable.
I am surprised they don't want Thor for stage wins but I am guessing since they want to support cadel and TJ that they want just workers.
 
Jun 12, 2013
425
0
0
offbyone said:
Phinney has never been a serious and consistent domestique and is also unreliable.
I am surprised they don't want Thor for stage wins but I am guessing since they want to support cadel and TJ that they want just workers.

yeah come to think of it, i haven't heard or seen much of phinney this year. If they want to support TJ/evans why they didn't include frank as a mountain domestique doesn't make sense to me :confused: they have about twice the amount of flat stage domestiques as mountain domestiques. Imo makes more sense to have it the other way round