so ullrich knows?

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we all know jan and kloeden are very good friends. ullrich lost at least 3 tours in favour of armstrong. kloeden and armstrong rode together for two years, so he must have seen something. do you think now jan has the confirmation that lance is a doper?
i would really want to see the very first discussion between andreas and jan after andreas saw what landis saw.
 
No, I am sure der Jan is still just as mystified as he was when he said this.
"Whoever still can't put one and one together about what happened in cycling is beyond my help."
Don't believe he needs Klodi or Ballstrong or an investigation to confirm anything.
In other words, dumbest question of the day.
 
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nice irony...anyway, a while ago i read about some stenograms of phone discussions between ullrich and pevenage, and the belgian was wondering what armstrong is using. so it;s clear he knew lance was doped, but didn't knew how.
 
McLovin said:
nice irony...anyway, a while ago i read about some stenograms of phone discussions between ullrich and pevenage, and the belgian was wondering what armstrong is using. so it;s clear he knew lance was doped, but didn't knew how.
The bit Pevenage was missing was the payoff. Lance could take more risks as if he ever tested P it would go away. Ullrich was way too nice to bribe sports officials.

Jan should take it as a compliment that Armstrong would go to such lengths.
 
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WonderLance said:
You ask silly questions. Ullrich lost because he hates excellence and loves pies.
Which makes him smarter than all of the rest. He rode well, but was not willing to give up a good pie for riding excellent. I have a lot of respect for a man that dedicated to pie.
 
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Pie is soooo good. Strudel, too. Schnitzel, hell yes.

As history further distills the Pharmstrong/Ullrich years of battle, one seems inclined to pity the German more, though Rudy was trying to perfect his "preparation" to match Lance's.
 
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While Jan certainly had a problem with the strudel when he was racing has anyone seen him these days? The guy is skinny and fit.
 
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McLovin said:
do you think now jan has the confirmation that lance is a doper?
Confirmation? No. I don't imagine Lance invited Jan into the hotel rooms to check out their program. Unless Jan stopped to help USPS when their bus broke down it is unlikely he has any first hand knowledge.
 

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