So who here posts on the Radio Shack forums?

[Alpe d'Huez]

Now we need Alpe D’Huez to exonerate his name also. It looks like all members in this forum have a clone in other forums.

I am NOT AlpedHuez or AlpeDhuez1 on there!!! That's not me!

Hopefully I picked a good user name or extinction specie.

I don't mind being "outed" here or at Bicycling or CN, or even CEM. People often find my "endangered specie" name elsewhere, which is usually me. But that got hijacked somewhere once too. Oy!

When in doubt, ask. I don't hide behind an avatar and screen name.

RadioShack Forms needs Vadar, and Tom Morris. They can also have BPC/Arbiter/EarthTribe/MaxPower/Rex Hunter/Rise of the Dead/Snake Bite.

 

[Snake Bite]

RadioShack Forms needs Vadar, and Tom Morris. They can also have BPC/Arbiter/EarthTribe/MaxPower/Rex Hunter/Rise of the Dead/Snake Bite.

Maybe you should do a sticky where you warn people that you don't want any Armstrong fans on this site. I just signed up today and did not realise all remarks that could be considered praise for, or defending, Armstrong are regarded as trolling. The policy should be transparent so there can't be any confusion. You should say something like:

"Any admiration for the biggest name in cycling and seven times TdF winner is strictly forbidden in this cycling forum. It will not be tolerated and those who break this rule will be punished."

But then add something like "But threads that recruit trolls to attack pro Armstrong websites are allowed and will be encouraged by the moderators".

"We will also not delete threads that make fake claims about Armstrong admitting to doping in a press conference."

 

[Race Radio]

I think a change in policy would be a great idea, but nothing about Armstrong is needed.

It should be made clear that posters who highjack threads, are repeatedly banned, change IP addresses in order to sign up a new username in order to troll and cause chaos are not welcome.

You have been voted off the island. The persecution strategy does not work with anyone.

 

[gregod]

I think a change in policy would be a great idea, but nothing about Armstrong is needed.

It should be made clear that posters who highjack threads, are repeatedly banned, change IP addresses in order to sign up a new username in order to troll and cause chaos are not welcome.

You have been voted off the island. The persecution strategy does not work with anyone.

RR, due respect, but commenting toward, even without quoting, the troll, is tinder to his flame of nonsense...

 

[Snake Bite]

I think a change in policy would be a great idea, but nothing about Armstrong is needed.

It should be made clear that posters who highjack threads, are repeatedly banned, change IP addresses in order to sign up a new username in order to troll and cause chaos are not welcome.

You have been voted off the island. The persecution strategy does not work with anyone.

I've read a few of your posts.

1. Do you not think there is a contradiction in calling for people to be banned and then claiming they have a persecution strategy? If they're being banned all the time then they are being persecuted, aren't they?

2. Also, can you cite a pro Armstrong comment that you have ever regarded as not trolling.

Thanks.

 

[Ferminal]

Guys give him a break, don't bait him unless it's clear he's not going to be banned. Alpe already knows so hopefully he's told an Admin to ban him and it should get done soon.

The forums have already been much better the last 2 days, let's not ruin it today.

Of course if he stays around for too long I will happily join in the "fun".

 

[Snake Bite]

The forums have already been much better the last 2 days, let's not ruin it today.

2 days? But two "trolls" were banned only last night (even though they were the only two people in the locked threads that were not breaking the rules. Quite remarkably, Alpe here said before he closed the thread to the person that was banned "I'm glad you find it funny", as if that was reason enough to ban them for a thread that was full of insults and threats to hunt them down and bum rape them.)

 

[Race Radio]

RR, due respect, but commenting toward, even without quoting, the troll, is tinder to his flame of nonsense...

Agreed, the ignore list just got bigger

 

[Snake Bite]

Guys give him a break, don't bait him unless it's clear he's not going to be banned. Alpe already knows so hopefully he's told an Admin to ban him and it should get done soon.

The forums have already been much better the last 2 days, let's not ruin it today.

Of course if he stays around for too long I will happily join in the "fun".

Pssst, you're not supposed to openly admit your friends are trolling and baiting when you're trying to pretend that a "troll" needs to be banned. Get your lines right.

Perhaps you could tell us what pro-Armstrong comment you believe is not trolling? Is it possible to say something pro-Armstrong and not be regarded as a troll on this site?

 

[Snake Bite]

Agreed, the ignore list just got bigger

That's handy - you know you are unable to answer me.

RaceRadio believes any supportive or defending comment of Armstrong is trolling. He has a strategy to lie his fat **** off that people who disagree with him are trolls and disrupters, and have "sock puppets". He has never been able to cite anything to support this claim, apart from a remark to Betsy made six months ago that was not anything to do with trolling. So that's six months of a troll doing his thing but RR can't cite anything - nothing - in the rest of that period. Not a tiny thing. Surely there would be pages and pages of it to point to? But nothing.

You do the math.

 

[Snake Bite]

I wasn't going to make any particular pro Armstrong comment for a bit and play it cool, knowing what you guys are like, but I read the Joe Parkin article in the pro racing section and agreed with his comment about Armstrong having a better head than Contador, so remarked on it. I immediately was called a troll. Remember this before anyone had even called him BPC. It was absurdity.

Then I come in here and Alpe is openly saying he hopes all pro-Armstrong posters should go to the RadioShack forum. There are posters admitting to trolling over there, and the thread with a fake story about Armstrong has still not been deleted, and of course the only two people not trolling in the locked threads were the ones that were banned. So I thought "F*** it".

What gets me more than the fact this is an anti Armstrong site is the fact that you won't admit it. There is a pretense that any pro- Armstrong comment is not called trolling and banned. I'm absolutely serious that you should just do a sticky saying Armstrong supporters are considered trolls here. If you did that I promise you that I would not come back and you can have your site to play around with, and organise attacks on fan forums. But FFS, be honest about it. Why do you have to pretend you're some serious forum where only the "trolls" are banned? It's absurd.

It would be like the RadioShack forum pretending their not a fan site.

 

[Snake Bite]

I do see the funny side of it though. It's hard not to laugh when reading Alpe desperately trying to find a reason to ban me in the locked thread, but can only find my reply to an insult towards me as a reason. Take a look, it was funny.

And who cannot chuckle when seeing this RaceRadio character say I've got a persecution strategy as he calls for the mods to ban me. I don't think he realises how he is half the time. He says I'm the one who is sad for coming back to a forum, yet he's the guy whose whole life is dedicated to bringing down someone's reputation. (Wasn't hard to see it was him spamming the Michael Ashton article on the RR forums, was it? He must have spammed that across half the internet). What I want to know is, if Armstrong was brought down and there were no more "trolls" (fans) then what would he do with himself? Maybe he thinks this will make his life better. But what if it isnt the answer to all his problems?

 

[Snake Bite]

Anyway I'm off to bed - there is about a one in a thousand chance that you will see user 'Snake Bite' again.

 

[Ferminal]

I think it's more the fact that on every forums I've ever visited, if they ban someone, making a new account doesn't mean they are unbanned.

So it doesn't matter if you just register and post in the general forum talking about your favourite types of cheese, the logical policy is to ban subsequent accounts. Content means nothing if someone is already banned.

If your argument had any substance, this member would be banned -

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/member.php?u=8592

 

[Hugh Januss]

I think it's more the fact that on every forums I've ever visited, if they ban someone, making a new account doesn't mean they are unbanned.

So it doesn't matter if you just register and post in the general forum talking about your favourite types of cheese, the logical policy is to ban subsequent accounts. Content means nothing if someone is already banned.

If your argument had any substance, this member would be banned -

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/member.php?u=8592

And Flicker and ChrisE and CaliBiker and Polish and Scribe and can't remember other names now but the range of Lance love and hate knows no bounds here.

 

[pedaling squares]

Could someone please post instructions how to ignore a poster? I have not done so before, but this is getting to be more than a mere distraction. As an aside, I welcome Lance's fans here even if I do not always agree with them. I'll listen to anyone and am usually better off for doing so. But the perpetual nonsense here is neither interesting nor good for discussion.

 

[Race Radio]

Could someone please post instructions how to ignore a poster? I have not done so before, but this is getting to be more than a mere distraction. As an aside, I welcome Lance's fans here even if I do not always agree with them. I'll listen to anyone and am usually better off for doing so. But the perpetual nonsense here is neither interesting nor good for discussion.

click this link
http://forum.cyclingnews.com/profile.php?do=ignorelist
enter the users name

 

[Hugh Januss]

Could someone please post instructions how to ignore a poster? I have not done so before, but this is getting to be more than a mere distraction. As an aside, I welcome Lance's fans here even if I do not always agree with them. I'll listen to anyone and am usually better off for doing so. But the perpetual nonsense here is neither interesting nor good for discussion.

Find "User CP" upper left hand side of every page. Click on it, that takes you to your control panel. Go down left hand side to "Edit Ignore List" click, enter name you want to ignore, sit back an enjoy the silence.

Edit: Or do that.

 

[Polish]

So what is worse...

1) FanBoys that don't know that Lance doped?
or
2) FanBoys that don't care that Lance doped?

What is the World coming to?
Will the FanBoys lead the way to a "Drug Legal" future for pro sports?
Be afraid! Meoooow.

Cut and Paste from the RS fansite:

Posted 9:46 AM 9/9/2009
"I am one of those people that don't care if sports people dope so whatever..... "

or how about...

Posted 8:29 AM 9/10/2009
I don't care that Armstrong doped either.

or after a troll raged anti-lancelike:

This post has been deleted.

was followed by a

Anonymous Posted 9:31 AM 9/22/2009
Yawn....

 

[fpcyclingn]

Is it possible to say something pro-Armstrong and not be regarded as a troll on this site?

The thing is, all the Haters on this site aren't actually applying the term "troll" correctly. And it's getting old, fast. I figure they must have seem somebody else use that term, then started using it themselves without actually understanding its use.

Basically any Pro-LA post gets labeled as a troll post. Yeah, way to go Haters! You have it all figured out!

They still refuse to believe that some fans out there:

don't judge Armstrong's love life
don't care about doping accusations
don't care about doping
don't care what he says about Contador
don't care what he says about journalists
don't care about the efficiency of Livestrong
don't care if he wears black

They care about his ability to podium, and his ability to win the same race 7 times in a row.

Does that sum it up? Did I use proper fifth-grade vocabulary so the Haters can understand it?

What the mods should be concerned about is:

how the Haters doping posts lack logic and authority (as in, you don't have a PhD, you don't open your mouth).

how many Haters could easily be sued for libel should Armstrong care about what these nobody keyboard warriors have to say.

 

[Ferminal]

The thing is, all the Haters on this site aren't actually applying the term "troll" correctly. And it's getting old, fast. I figure they must have seem somebody else use that term, then started using it themselves without actually understanding its use.

Basically any Pro-LA post gets labeled as a troll post. Yeah, way to go Haters! You have it all figured out!

They still refuse to believe that some fans out there:

don't judge Armstrong's love life
don't care about doping accusations
don't care about doping
don't care what he says about Contador
don't care what he says about journalists
don't care about the efficiency of Livestrong
don't care if he wears black

They care about his ability to podium, and his ability to win the same race 7 times in a row.

Does that sum it up? Did I use proper fifth-grade vocabulary so the Haters can understand it?

What the mods should be concerned about is:

how the Haters doping posts lack logic and authority (as in, you don't have a PhD, you don't open your mouth).

how many Haters could easily be sued for libel should Armstrong care about what these nobody keyboard warriors have to say.

Read the first pages of the clinic (go to forum view and click "last"). You will see how informative and constructive clinic threads were. None of this was "fifth-grade" either, feel free to bump the threads if you feel you can contribute on that level of discussion. I certainly couldn't (was very happy to read) so I never posted.

Although you talk about people posting on the internet being libel, so maybe you haven't reached fifth grade yet, unless you can show me the successful cases of anonymous internet posters being sued?

For the record, people only started talking about "trolling" here -

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showpost.php?p=66566&postcount=258

Then again, a person only needs to search your post history to realise you've contributed far less than The Arbiter/BanProCycling/BritishProCycling/Sprocket01 etc etc has. If you don't care about doping there's zero reason for you to be reading/posting here, although you may just be a zealot.

 

[53 x 11]

Just checked in there...........WOW!

I agree, and it is true that LA is the most tested athlete in the world and yeah i'm sure the french are doing everything they can in their power to prove him a doper when hes obviously NOT!Just because someone from the United States of America comes in and wins a french race 7 times doesnt mean hes the "bad" guy! Lance is obviously more powerful and more experienced than most other riders from franceand they can't expect one of their own to win every single time that would just be unfair to all other countries!

Lets say Cadel Evans won the Tour Down Under in Australia every time, and Contador won every Vuelta, that would be unfair to all other countries who are participating in that particular race. My point is, Lance shouldn't be THE ONLY victim of doping when you have others out there like Hamilton, Landis (although I dont 100% believe he doped), and you have someone in the peloton as we speak who admitted and was proven guilty, Ivan Basso. Why always point the finger at Lance when it clearly could have been Contador. If anyone paid very close attention to Contador, wouldn't you agree that something was suspicous?

I would never accuse Armstrong of doping even if they had hard, solid evidence which could have very easily been planted to frame him and ban him for life. They could have spiked a urine sample, or a blood sample. Who knows what goes on behind french labs besides the french? Anything could happen and they say they were "honest" I dont trust them at all! Would anyone in America?

Not even WonderLance could come up with that kind of Tin-foil hat, cool aid insanity.

I see that Alpe is posting there as well. Why do you have to damn reasonable.......Even when dealing with the crazies.

 

[BroDeal]

Just checked in there...........WOW!

SNIP

Not even WonderLance could come up with that kind of Tin-foil hat, cool aid insanity.

LOL. That had to be a troll. It reads like something the notorious Jeff Vader would write when we were trolling the Paceline.

 

[53 x 11]

LOL. That had to be a troll. It reads like something the notorious Jeff Vader would write when we were trolling the Paceline.

I seriously think that guy is running the forum.....Or he is pretty damn good.

 

[Race Radio]

Basically any Pro-LA post gets labeled as a troll post. Yeah, way to go Haters! You have it all figured out!

This is completely incorrect.

In case you have not been paying attention for the last 6 months there has been a commuted troll here on the board. His goal has been to disrupt and highjack any thread and he has been banned 8-10 times. His action have caused the board to be more sensitive and this is who has been called a troll 99% of the time. As he changes usernames often I am sure some users have been mistakenly called a troll but this is rare.

All views are welcome, but like any public forum the poster should expect them to be questioned by a diverse, international group.

As for the libel lawsuit, bring it on. It will fun to prove in court that Armstrong does indeed only date women who look like his mother.