Some advice for 11 speed and 10 rear wheel

[malknight]

I see a lot of answers regarding jury rigging wheels and reprogramming or otherwise of 10 speed and 11 speed electronic rear ders.

However, given that the shifting brain is the rear der, not the shifter, which is just up and down, and given that the gaps on the 11 can not be changed:

Has anyone taken a 11 speed cassette, removed a cog in the middle, preserving the gap.
Adjusting the limits and using the 11 speed cassette as a 10 speed installed on a 10 speed wheel?

The issue is the limit.

Thanks for comments

 

[malknight]

No one has any idea?

 

[Master50]

I am confused about what you want to know. is your gear 10 or 11 speed? the spacings on 11 and 10 speed cassettes are different so you cannot make a 10 speed out of an 11. Are you asking can you put 10 cogs of an 11 speed so it fits on a 10 speed cassette? I suppose you could. I take it you do not want to change the cassette body to 11 speed and redish the wheel for shimano or change to campy and use their 11 speed cassette without redishing the wheel

 

[malknight]

I am confused about what you want to know. is your gear 10 or 11 speed? the spacings on 11 and 10 speed cassettes are different so you cannot make a 10 speed out of an 11. Are you asking can you put 10 cogs of an 11 speed so it fits on a 10 speed cassette? I suppose you could. I take it you do not want to change the cassette body to 11 speed and redish the wheel for shimano or change to campy and use their 11 speed cassette without redishing the wheel

Nope.

I have a 10 speed wheel, but can I pull a cog out of an 11 speed cassette, so making it 10, and preserving 11 speed spacing, and ride?

The shifter is merely up and down. Setting the limits on the rd can restrict the travel. And make it a 10 speed with 11 speed spacing.

Thanks for responding.

 

[Master50]

Ah
11 speed der but only shifting up to 10 cogs. what happens when the der shifts the 11th time? does it run against the adjustment screw? do you get an error. I take it you will remove a small cog as the big ones are attached in pairs or 3s?
I would change the wheel to 11 speed by changing the cassette body either to shimano and redish or to Campy and use an 11 speed campy cassette on your shimano Drive train.

 

[malknight]

Unfortunately the wheel - a dura ace 7801 isn't convertible. And my campy wheel White industry hub needs the new freehub and a re-dish.

Thanks for the answer.

Cheers

 

[Master50]

Unfortunately the wheel - a dura ace 7801 isn't convertible. And my campy wheel White industry hub needs the new freehub and a re-dish.

Thanks for the answer.

Cheers

If the white industries hub has campy freehub? It does not need any change. Campy freehub bodies are the same for 8 to 11 speed. only your shimano freehub wheels needs redish and a change from 10 speed to 11 speed.

 

[wrinklyvet]

If the white industries hub has campy freehub? It does not need any change. Campy freehub bodies are the same for 8 to 11 speed. only your shimano freehub wheels needs redish and a change from 10 speed to 11 speed.

As a matter of interest, I don't think this is true of 8-speed, which I have. As somebody once said, campagnolo 8 speed is like a lonely orphan. 8-speed cassettes don't fit 9 and above hubs.

 

[Master50]

As a matter of interest, I don't think this is true of 8-speed, which I have. As somebody once said, campagnolo 8 speed is like a lonely orphan. 8-speed cassettes don't fit 9 and above hubs.

I have been on Campy since 1986 and started at 7 using free wheels. I cannot recall if I still had a freewheel at 8 or if I went to cassettes then. I do not recall a difference from 8 to 9? Time for some research.

 

[avanti]

Nope.

I have a 10 speed wheel, but can I pull a cog out of an 11 speed cassette, so making it 10, and preserving 11 speed spacing, and ride?

The shifter is merely up and down. Setting the limits on the rd can restrict the travel. And make it a 10 speed with 11 speed spacing.

Thanks for responding.

Why not just try doing what you want - it will either work or not work - this should not take more than 1/2 hour to check out.

Personally I would sell my current 10-speed rear wheel and buy an 11-speed rear wheel and enjoy the extra gear.