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Boehmand

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Been away for a few days and can't be bothered to read up on the thread - so apologies if it's already covered:

Complete amateur hour(s) from Visma today.

Campenaerts, WvA and Yates just burned themselves up, to achieve nothing - and then the team realised too late that it would make sense to work to keep Pogacar in yellow, so he has all the podium duties every day, and they failed in that as well.

It's just too often they are this disorganised and ride like headless chickens, and obviously the team leadership is to blame.
 
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tobydawq said:
Has a rider ever managed to lose yellow, green and polkadot on the same stage before?

As a related question, has a rider ever simultaneously been in yellow, green, polkadot and rainbow colors at the same time?
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Yes Merckx several times ( 3 I think), he even won with all three shirts. And another guy has who I don't remember has also had all three jerseys
Edit: *** , i didnt notice you had the rainbow jersey in there as well. Disregard then :)
 
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tobydawq

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Skalman said:
Yes Merckx several times ( 3 I think), he even won with all three shirts. And another guy has who I don't remember has also had all three jerseys
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The question was all three and rainbow jersey as well.

Merckx was not world champion in 1969 where he won them all. And in 1972, he wore all the jerseys but he did not lead the points and the KOM competitions at the same time.

I think Pogacar's feat was unprecedented. Incredible that no media picked up on that rather astounding fact.
 
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tobydawq said:
The question was all three and rainbow jersey as well.

Merckx was not world champion in 1969 where he won them all. And in 1972, he wore all the jerseys but he did not lead the points and the KOM competitions at the same time.

I think Pogacar's feat was unprecedented. Incredible that no media picked up on that rather astounding fact.
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I noticed that you had thrown in the Rainbow also after i had typed my reply and i then edited it.
 
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Boehmand said:
Been away for a few days and can't be bothered to read up on the thread - so apologies if it's already covered:

Complete amateur hour(s) from Visma today.

Campenaerts, WvA and Yates just burned themselves up, to achieve nothing - and then the team realised too late that it would make sense to work to keep Pogacar in yellow, so he has all the podium duties every day, and they failed in that as well.

It's just too often they are this disorganised and ride like headless chickens, and obviously the team leadership is to blame.
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Huh? The last couple of Tours I thought they were actually on top of their game tactically.
But I feel that Zeeman leaving made / makes a pretty big difference. Wether you like him or not, he seemed a lot sharper when it comes to tactics than Niermann.
 
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Gratemans said:
Huh? The last couple of Tours I thought they were actually on top of their game tactically.
But I feel that Zeeman leaving made / makes a pretty big difference. Wether you like him or not, he seemed a lot sharper when it comes to tactics than Niermann.
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I'm think last season and this has seen too many tactical failures.

Prior to then was a very different story.
 
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Boehmand said:
Been away for a few days and can't be bothered to read up on the thread - so apologies if it's already covered:

Complete amateur hour(s) from Visma today.

Campenaerts, WvA and Yates just burned themselves up, to achieve nothing - and then the team realised too late that it would make sense to work to keep Pogacar in yellow, so he has all the podium duties every day, and they failed in that as well.

It's just too often they are this disorganised and ride like headless chickens, and obviously the team leadership is to blame.
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No disrespect, but you came in swinging on a horse that has been brutalized by several posters into a bumblebee colored, gelatinous blob. I'd take it to the glue factory, but I can't get the skin suit off.
 
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Note that Visma did not necessarily fail in their objective, as Pogi will likely be back in yellow tomorrow and if Visma wouldn't do what they did, then Pogi could still go on and contest the stages with no jersey duties after the fact. The plan for UAE therefore for sure was to have a bigger gap after today and some reserve for stage hunting, Visma to ruin it.
 
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I thought maybe mvdp was happy to be in the break, take yellow and go for the stage win in yellow tomorrow. But no, he was actually totally dead, which is a shame as it makes tomorrow even more unlikely and less of a spectacle for us all. I think tomorrow has an X on it in Pog's tour guide.

You can't overstate how good Healey was today. He basically lead every break away attempt that failed and the one that went. Then he just rode away from everyone :O It was amazing, but not great television once he went.
 
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If Pogi knew what Visma plans to do then IMHO stage 6 would be a GC day, he would say the heck with it lets go for the stage then. Ditching jersey duties till the first rest day turned out to be a non option anyway.
 
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tobydawq said:
Has a rider ever managed to lose yellow, green and polkadot on the same stage before?

As a related question, has a rider ever simultaneously been in yellow, green, polkadot and rainbow colors at the same time?
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Alex Stieda (7-Eleven) had -5- jerseys at once: Yellow, Polka dot, Combo, Intermediate sprint and white. Day 2 1986 tour. That was a 2 stage day and he lost yellow a few hours later when the team he messed up the TTT.
 
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CyclistAbi said:
Note that Visma did not necessarily fail in their objective, as Pogi will likely be back in yellow tomorrow and if Visma wouldn't do what they did, then Pogi could still go on and contest the stages with no jersey duties after the fact. The plan for UAE therefore for sure was to have a bigger gap after today and some reserve for stage hunting, Visma to ruin it.
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I would agree with this. Visma didn't necessarily fail, as it sounds like Pogi wants to win today's stage. If he succeeds, he will be back in yellow. I also think they're piling the pressure on, not letting him/ UAE dictate things and have an easy stage.

I have to say, I'm quite enjoying the Visma/ UAE shenanigans.
 
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I could make it through about 5 minutes of Wiggo. He is awful.
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It's too awkward watching him because of where he comes from and why he's on the show.

It's just Armstrong and Bruyneel with their own pro-cycling variant of The Dirty Dozen with misfits and broken men given a second chance.
 
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