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roundabout said:Don't think it was 6 days. I think the TT was the next day.
MacRoadie said:National Championships - 0
World Championships - 0
Classics Wins - 0
Grand Tour Wins - 0
Grand Tour Podiums - 1 (third, 1995 Vuelta)
Grand Tour Stage Wins - 3 (one Vuelta, two TdF)
Bruyneel did win one Yellow Jersey in the 1995 Tour (and held it for 6 days) by beating Indurain after sucking his wheel for about half of Stage 7 (after Indurain chased him down solo and rode the rest of the course like a TT). He also won the Grand prix de Nations TT in 1993, but aside from those two events, he really didn't do much else as a professional rider.
By comparison, Tommy Voeckler, with his 19 days in Yellow, two French National Road Championships, two TdF stages, Tour of Luxembourg, Four Days of Dunkirk, Tour Du Haut var, etc, etc must be a cycling god...
WinterRider said:I know speculation is rife around here about what the Schleck's will be like under Johan's tutelage.
But I wonder what the clinic's take is on this quote after the TdF presentation today (from velonews):
“This is the anti-Schleck Tour,” Bruyneel said. “We will have a very strong team, and that will compensate for the route that will not favor the Schlecks. We can make the race hard and force the action. Andy will also be better than people expect in the time trial.”
He's really throwing down the gauntlet with a statement like that!
fatandfast said:talk about cherry pick. You know way more about bike racing than this. Lots of guys are not even on a team that goes to a grand tour, selections within a team make going to one a hard task.
Having the yellow harder still, wearing it as a rider, come on man, it's every racers dream and few have done it.
The 1000's of guys that have raced at the pro level and go home after retirement with zero wins let alone wearing the yellow and winning stages at a grand tour. His record as a director, the same, major wins throughout. Voeckler is another great racer, not a director yet. He had a great year without it his resume would look very different. Yes being a national champ is special but winning and wearing yellow is history making for anybody that does it. Majority of racers never get to the tour, never win a race, let alone a classic or stage at one of the big ones.
Johan's cycling accomplishments should be kept in perspective his TDF win record is awesome as of now.
“They have already been working on their time trial, so we cannot expect too much improvements,” Andersen said, who is staying on as a sport director with the team merger. “They have to win the Tour with their talent and they are climbers. This Tour is not ideal for us, but we will have a very strong team. And with a strong team, you can make a difference.”
Martin318is said:Ignoring the JB thing for now and just looking at Frandy and ANY incoming DS, it seems a bit obvious really.
Frandy left Bjarne and set up by themselves. It was "their" team and they seemed to be assuming that they had already won the 2011 Tour as soon as they got their team kit. They clearly haven't spent much time on their TTs - their positions look like they haven't even been professionally tuned in a Tunnel and even then, they are so uncomfortable in the positions it is obvious they do about 10km per month on their TT bikes.
sashimono said:Bruyneel's contribution to sports is his discovery that an audio stimulus can trigger a biological organism to produce EPO naturally.
The technique requires the repeated annunciation of a long string of two phonemes in exacltly the correct order. The phonemes are "go" and "boys."
In other words we should expect more Leopard-Radioshack buses breakdowns in the alps and Pyrenees.WinterRider said:I know speculation is rife around here about what the Schleck's will be like under Johan's tutelage.
But I wonder what the clinic's take is on this quote after the TdF presentation today (from velonews):
“This is the anti-Schleck Tour,” Bruyneel said. “We will have a very strong team, and that will compensate for the route that will not favor the Schlecks. We can make the race hard and force the action. Andy will also be better than people expect in the time trial.”
He's really throwing down the gauntlet with a statement like that!
Publicus said:Apparently Kim Andersen didn't get the memo:
fatandfast said:it is nothing short of amazing that people can mold an opinion on nothing more than a sour stomach...
fatandfast said:talk about cherry pick. ....
Johan's cycling accomplishments should be kept in perspective his TDF win record is awesome as of now.
fatandfast said:Johan's cycling accomplishments should be kept in perspective his TDF win record is awesome as of now.
cyclopeon said:I don't think you can include Contador's GT's except maybe the 2007 Tour. Remember, Contador was often in the p** for disobeying instructions and for acting on his own without permission. Kinda slims down JB's record a bit.
(Yes, I know you specified TDF but I felt one should broaden the envelope just a bit).
fatandfast said:I really have no idea what these last couple of posts are about. Do you really think the companies that run most of the major races will want to revisit the process they used to confirm who is and is not cheating? NFW. Johan's record is in stone
fatandfast said:he is called a master because of his race record. The fact that many of world's top riders what to ride on a team under his direction is a far greater example of his dominance than on a post on the interweb
thehog said:Agreed. But I’m sure there will be media releases, videos etc. showing Andy in a wind tunnel and doing specialised weight training etc. I’m sure they’ll provide plenty of justification for the massive improvement made.
Kloden tweets are ridiculous. Fabs has been with the Shelecks for years – he could have been teaching them since 2006 – why now the realisation that they have Cancellera and that he can assist.
palmerq said:I think this could be a really interesting union from an entertainment point of view... schleckies wont be winning the tour untill their time trial is sorted out, so andy with johan could put up an amazing fight v contador, I'm actually really looking forward to it... and anyway it's not like contador has never tested positive, the whole thing is a bit of a circus, next year it might just be best to watch the circus and enjoy it for what it is... anyway come on andy!