Supplements for Weight Loss

[dannyrao642512]

Is using a weight loss supplement good choice to reduce weight instant or I should concentrate on diet to lose weight. I have over weight problem and I am very depressed with this problem. I have no time to go to the gym so if I use the supplement to lose weight than it will good for me to get results fast. Because I never use before any supplement due to afraid of any side effect. So suggest me the best supplement which can help me to get rid of this problem fast.

 

[elapid]

There's no quick fix. You did not get overweight overnight and you will not lose weight quickly either. Supplements are usually either potentially harmful or a scam.

Diet and exercise are the only ways to lose weight. It's hard work and the way you are feeling should be motivation enough to get started. You cannot be that busy that you cannot afford 30-60 minutes/day for exercise, even if it is just a walk around the block to begin with.

There are lots of different diets out there. The 5-2 diet is popular at the moment (2 days of fasting/week), but there are a whole bunch of high protein-low carb type diets and no added sugar diets which are also effective. I personally am not a fan of the restricted calorie type of diets because relapses are common. However, I don't know how much you weigh and whether these diets may be dangerous for you, so best to seek medical advice before starting any of these diets.

If you are overweight, then you'll have strong legs from lugging all that weight around. Biking and walking are good options, as is strength work. If you are motivated and financial, a trainer experienced with working with overweight people may be a good option because they will provide the exercise routines, nutritional advice, and motivation for you to continue.

Keep jumping on the scales to make sure you are heading in the right direction. When you reach your goal weight, keep measuring your weight to ensure that it is not creeping back on.

Good luck.

 

[Alpechraxler]

Better safe the money and see a bariatric surgeon.

 

[biopass]

Is using a weight loss supplement good choice to reduce weight instant or I should concentrate on diet to lose weight. I have over weight problem and I am very depressed with this problem. I have no time to go to the gym so if I use the supplement to lose weight than it will good for me to get results fast. Because I never use before any supplement due to afraid of any side effect. So suggest me the best supplement which can help me to get rid of this problem fast.

Try eating Paleo. Once you start and begin to feel the benefits, you'll realise it's a life style and not a diet

 

[darkcloud]

Eat More Weigh Less by Dean Ornish, MD

Google him. Mainstream medical doctor. Combine this diet with exercise and you WILL shed pounds fairly quickly.
In a nutshell it boils down to eating fresh produce, fruits, legumes and limited animal sources of protein.
I'm sure copies are available on amazon for very little $.

 

[momotaro]

Is using a weight loss supplement good choice to reduce weight instant or I should concentrate on diet to lose weight. I have over weight problem and I am very depressed with this problem. I have no time to go to the gym so if I use the supplement to lose weight than it will good for me to get results fast. Because I never use before any supplement due to afraid of any side effect. So suggest me the best supplement which can help me to get rid of this problem fast.

Some supplements loaded with stimulants may help lose a tiny bit of weight, but you will feel terrible, and in some cases they are harmful.

Some supplements loaded with viscous fiber may improve satiety and help you lose a tiny bit of weight.

There are a few pharma that are indicated for weightloss, but they are limited in efficacy and effectiveness. talk to your doc.

Bariatric surgery can result in massive weightloss, but that is pretty extreme measure. It is probably the closest thing to a short cut, but you still have to be mindful of diet and exercise. probably only suitable for morbidly obese with medical conditions.

Diet and exercise have good efficacy towards fat loss; however, low effectiveness because the required amount of exercise and mindfulness around nutrition in difficult for most to maintain over the long run.

If you really want to lose weight, you have to make a lifelong commitment maintaining a healthy diet and lifestyle. This is very hard to acheive, and is a struggle for most of the developed world, so don't be overly upset about it.

I would suggest re-evaluating your commitment to weightloss and then setting realistic goals inline with your ability and commitment.

 

[DirtyWorks]

There's no quick fix. You did not get overweight overnight and you will not lose weight quickly either. Supplements are usually either potentially harmful or a scam.

Diet and exercise are the only ways to lose weight. It's hard work and the way you are feeling should be motivation enough to get started. You cannot be that busy that you cannot afford 30-60 minutes/day for exercise, even if it is just a walk around the block to begin with.

Sort of this.

There is no magic bullet. To lose weight you burn more calories than you consume. That doesn't mean going hungry. It means counting calories and that means being aware of your food and exercise habits.

It CAN'T be hard work. Diets largely don't work because the average person adopting a fad diet ends up spending mental energy on dreaming about foods they are missing. The corollary to this is physical activity is a 'must do' not something to look forward do doing.

Some of exploring fad diets like paleo and all the rest is good. The individual will probably discover foods that did not make them feel good as well as foods that are good and good for them. Every body is different, so explore lots of fads and chances are good you find foods that work better for you.

In the West, given sufficient wealth, being overweight is some combination of not choosing to spend time on your personal health, and/or some lifestyle habits as coping mechanism. Poverty throws a wrench in that big idea, so that's a whole other topic.

 

[sittingbison]

Try eating Paleo. Once you start and begin to feel the benefits, you'll realise it's a life style and not a diet

This ^^^

Sort of this....Some of exploring fad diets like paleo and all the rest is good...explore lots of fads and chances are good you find foods that work better for you...

DW, Paleo is not a "fad diet", although it is becoming increasingly popular and is often represented as such because of this. Describing the lifestyle experienced by our ancestors for 99% of our existence as a "fad" is bemusing.

 

[oldcrank]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GMyLFyl0bOc

 

[King Boonen]

There is one very simple method that is guaranteed to make you lose weight. Eat less, exercise more. I know some ridiculously busy people and every single one of them has 30-60 mins, 3 times a week where they can go and get some exercise. There is always time for your health.


Now, the problem with diets is they are doomed to fail, because as soon as you finish the diet you go back to eating whatever it was you were eating before. What you need if you want a successful is a lifestyle change, as others have alluded to. I know some people who have done very well with the 5-2 plan and then moved to 6-1 for maintenance. The point is that this is now how they eat, it's not a diet in the new sense, it is their diet in the traditional sense, they will not be going back to eating whatever they want like they did before. Anyone can eat more calories than they need, very easily. Every single person on this thread will have done it, numerous times no doubt.


There is no easy fix to weight loss, pills, fad diets etc. almost always fail. Do the simplest thing you can do, eat less, get more exercise. It'll work.

 

[TheSpud]

There is one very simple method that is guaranteed to make you lose weight. Eat less, exercise more. I know some ridiculously busy people and every single one of them has 30-60 mins, 3 times a week where they can go and get some exercise. There is always time for your health.


Now, the problem with diets is they are doomed to fail, because as soon as you finish the diet you go back to eating whatever it was you were eating before. What you need if you want a successful is a lifestyle change, as others have alluded to. I know some people who have done very well with the 5-2 plan and then moved to 6-1 for maintenance. The point is that this is now how they eat, it's not a diet in the new sense, it is their diet in the traditional sense, they will not be going back to eating whatever they want like they did before. Anyone can eat more calories than they need, very easily. Every single person on this thread will have done it, numerous times no doubt.


There is no easy fix to weight loss, pills, fad diets etc. almost always fail. Do the simplest thing you can do, eat less, get more exercise. It'll work.

This many times over.

Weight loss = use more calories than you take in.

I have tried a couple of supplements (Garcinia Cambogia and Raspberry Ketones) - mainly as a way of proving the "if it sounds to good to be true, then it is". Guess what? They don't work.

The only one that does seem to help when combined with exercise is CLA - my gut melted away using that, much more so than when not using it.

Otherwise it is as everyone on here has said - hard work : eat less / sensibly - exercise more. Cardio and weights do it for me.

 

[thehog]

This many times over.

Weight loss = use more calories than you take in.

This is hopelessly oversimplified and simply not true. The body doesn't peform it's own daily calculation of calories in, calories out. It absorbs and uses carbohydrates, proteins and sugars contained within the foods in differnt ways. ie a one calorie can of diet coke will not been processed in the same manner that a 200 calories piece or chicken. You may gain weight from the coke and probably will due to it's contents and not its caloric total.

Additionally there is a significant shift away from calories in favour for high fat/protein, low carb diets.

Calorie counting for the most part due to the processed nature or food is next to pointless. At best a guide.

It's a little old school and no wonder Froome, Wiggins and Sky moved to lower carb diets.

 

[thehog]

Is using a weight loss supplement good choice to reduce weight instant or I should concentrate on diet to lose weight. I have over weight problem and I am very depressed with this problem. I have no time to go to the gym so if I use the supplement to lose weight than it will good for me to get results fast. Because I never use before any supplement due to afraid of any side effect. So suggest me the best supplement which can help me to get rid of this problem fast.

Try thermogenic supplements which will heat the body and increase metabolism. They will suppress the need to eat as well. You'll sweat like crazy and go a little nutty so be careful. The ones containing DMAA have mostly now been banned like Jack-3D - too many exercise induced deaths.

If you want to lose weight just low carb it for a good month. You'll want a die for about 2 week but you'll drop a ton of weight. Do not count calories, otherwise you'll end in a endless cycle of fluctuating weight. Don't listen to all that willpower BS or balanced diets etc.

If you want to go hardcore enter a body building forum where you'll learn all sorts of things to drop weight, keep muscle and the phases associated. All illegal of course.

You can also try protein diets. I've seen people obtain amazing results. They feel very full and drink nothing but pure protein shakes for 9 or 30 days. Coggan has his own brand he recommends which I've been impressed by with friends, mostly cyclists - Isagenix, I believe its called.

 

[Night Rider]

Isagenix, I believe its called.

I would strongly urge everyone to stay away from Isagenix. Poor quality supplements and it's basically a marketing cult. Google "Isagenix scam".

Stick with the thermogenics.

 

[TheSpud]

This is hopelessly oversimplified and simply not true. The body doesn't peform it's own daily calculation of calories in, calories out. It absorbs and uses carbohydrates, proteins and sugars contained within the foods in differnt ways. ie a one calorie can of diet coke will not been processed in the same manner that a 200 calories piece or chicken. You may gain weight from the coke and probably will due to it's contents and not its caloric total.

Additionally there is a significant shift away from calories in favour for high fat/protein, low carb diets.

Calorie counting for the most part due to the processed nature or food is next to pointless. At best a guide.

It's a little old school and no wonder Froome, Wiggins and Sky moved to lower carb diets.

I disagree, and the reason I disagree is as follows. Food is an energy source (that's why its measured in Calories or Joules). Energy cannot be created or destroyed - it can change form, to produce heat, etc. Fat is how the body stores excess energy - ie more calories have been taken in than used up. Conversely when more energy is used than has been taken in the body goes hunting for energy stores to burn. Easily convertible stores are used first (for instance if a gel has just been consumed during a race, it is high sugar / energy content and easily converted in to useable energy). When these are done with the body will burn fat stores. Converting fat to energy takes a lot of effort and energy itself. This is what happens to marathon runners when they 'hit the wall' - the body is starting to burn fat. People tell me it feels like you have run in to a wall and you cant move - I've had it happen to me at the end of a really long ride, it took me 10 minutes to do the last mile.

Its a pretty well known rule of thumb that 1 lb of stored fat is equivalent to about 3500 calories - so if you want to lose 2 lb a week then you need a deficit of 7000 calories (1000 a day if you like) compared with what you body will use normally.

The other thing about the body is that muscle consumes energy - both during exercise and afterwards, and protein helps muscle grow. So by exercising muscles (or building bigger ones) you can burn more calories.


Now, I'm not saying these 'diets' that you mention don't work, low carbs, high protein, shakes, etc. I'm sure they do - but if you analyse them I bet they come down to more calories being used than being consumed. For instance the low carb diet would work because 'simple' carbs (bread, potatoes, white pasta, etc.) are easy for the body to burn for fuel and if you have enough of them then the body doesn't go hunting for the fat stores. By ditching the carbs and eating a high protein (chicken or fish for instance) and high vegetable (veggies have very low calories for their bulk) you are making the body hunt for the fat stores - that's why the nutribullet works so well.

Its like KB said though - it has to be a lifestyle change. I know loads of people who have calorie counted and lost a ton of weight - the problem is they cant stick with it because they go too extreme to start with and try and live on lettuce and celery. This then tends to lead to yo-yo dieting.

The supplements (garcinia nonsense) that you see advertised usually also contain a lot of caffeine since this is meant to increase you metabolism. It does, to a certain extent, but it isn't the magic bullet for weight loss - if it was everyone would be shouting it from the roof tops. What they don't say in those adverts is that you have to combine the supplement with dietary changes and also exercise (sound familiar?). You cant just take the pill and sit there for 3 weeks and expect to lose a ton of weight - those sorts of things just don't exist (well not legally or generally available).

 

[acoggan]

Coggan has his own brand he recommends which I've been impressed by with friends, mostly cyclists - Isagenix, I believe its called.

You must be mixing me up with someone else. I have never been involved in the supplement business*, and I have never heard of Isagenix.

*Ross Laboratories did provide some funding to support of my dissertation research.

 

[elapid]

I disagree, and the reason I disagree is as follows. Food is an energy source (that's why its measured in Calories or Joules). Energy cannot be created or destroyed - it can change form, to produce heat, etc. Fat is how the body stores excess energy - ie more calories have been taken in than used up. Conversely when more energy is used than has been taken in the body goes hunting for energy stores to burn. Easily convertible stores are used first (for instance if a gel has just been consumed during a race, it is high sugar / energy content and easily converted in to useable energy). When these are done with the body will burn fat stores. Converting fat to energy takes a lot of effort and energy itself. This is what happens to marathon runners when they 'hit the wall' - the body is starting to burn fat. People tell me it feels like you have run in to a wall and you cant move - I've had it happen to me at the end of a really long ride, it took me 10 minutes to do the last mile.

Its a pretty well known rule of thumb that 1 lb of stored fat is equivalent to about 3500 calories - so if you want to lose 2 lb a week then you need a deficit of 7000 calories (1000 a day if you like) compared with what you body will use normally.

The other thing about the body is that muscle consumes energy - both during exercise and afterwards, and protein helps muscle grow. So by exercising muscles (or building bigger ones) you can burn more calories.


Now, I'm not saying these 'diets' that you mention don't work, low carbs, high protein, shakes, etc. I'm sure they do - but if you analyse them I bet they come down to more calories being used than being consumed. For instance the low carb diet would work because 'simple' carbs (bread, potatoes, white pasta, etc.) are easy for the body to burn for fuel and if you have enough of them then the body doesn't go hunting for the fat stores. By ditching the carbs and eating a high protein (chicken or fish for instance) and high vegetable (veggies have very low calories for their bulk) you are making the body hunt for the fat stores - that's why the nutribullet works so well.

Its like KB said though - it has to be a lifestyle change. I know loads of people who have calorie counted and lost a ton of weight - the problem is they cant stick with it because they go too extreme to start with and try and live on lettuce and celery. This then tends to lead to yo-yo dieting.

The supplements (garcinia nonsense) that you see advertised usually also contain a lot of caffeine since this is meant to increase you metabolism. It does, to a certain extent, but it isn't the magic bullet for weight loss - if it was everyone would be shouting it from the roof tops. What they don't say in those adverts is that you have to combine the supplement with dietary changes and also exercise (sound familiar?). You cant just take the pill and sit there for 3 weeks and expect to lose a ton of weight - those sorts of things just don't exist (well not legally or generally available).

Watch the documentary Fed Up or read "Why We Get Fat" by Gary Taubes. Both will explain why weight loss is not a matter of burning more calories than are consumed, and both will explain why calories from simple sugars and processed carbohydrates are so much worse than calories from protein, complex carbohydrates, and fat (or why the latter are so much better for weight loss).

 

[sittingbison]

This ^^^^

Calories in calories out is completely misunderstanding the metabolic mechanism of the body and especially the role and function of hormones

 

[thehog]

This ^^^^

Calories in calories out is completely misunderstanding the metabolic mechanism of the body and especially the role and function of hormones

Correct. And for the most part calories don't actually exist in physical form. The human body doesn't actually "consume" calories per se. Calories are mearly a unit of engery measured by placing food in water, setting it alight and recording the rise in temperature of the water surrounding it. A very poor test to measure the quality of food! Which is why aspartame and the like were invented. Those ingredients are used to provide sugars at a extremely low caloric levels. Whilst the calorie levels may be low the substances themselves are extremely unhealthy, lead to weight gain and in some cases are considered harmful.

 

[blackcat]

lipotropin allows bodybuilders now to do their walk around weight aabout ~6-9% more than the competition weight.

2 decades ago, the walk around weight was circa ~20% more than competition weight.

but caloric in, caloric burned, is a pretty good rule of thumb. That is why former cyclists, could never come super lean like Froome and Wiggo and Horner. And in the last 18 months, even Nibali has rendered about 5% from his previous fighting weight, by the use of the same peptides.

These and roids allow Manny Pacquio the Phillippino fighter to hold consecutive belts in about 6 weight classes.

Previously, fighters could hold belts over a few different classes, but they needed to be closer to their optimum weight. The new drugs/peptides, allow you to render all non-fuctional tissue, so you can alter your perfect weight division. It is not just adding some muscle and stamina in a class above, or losing it from a class below, it is more than just that pure functional tissue. Your organs and other tissue need to be flexible and go up and down with the requirments and demands of fighting at different weights. That is why, without the new peptides, you could not just add some weight and keep on knocking off the belts as you go higher in the classes.

 

[blackcat]

This ^^^^

Calories in calories out is completely misunderstanding the metabolic mechanism of the body and especially the role and function of hormones

indeed, but it is a pretty good rule of thumb.

Peptides, which really should be called drugs, really manage to distort your pituitary gland. I would love to talk to a hormone specialist, an endocrinologist about this.

 

[Erythropoietin]

Is using a weight loss supplement good choice to reduce weight instant or I should concentrate on diet to lose weight. I have over weight problem and I am very depressed with this problem. I have no time to go to the gym so if I use the supplement to lose weight than it will good for me to get results fast. Because I never use before any supplement due to afraid of any side effect. So suggest me the best supplement which can help me to get rid of this problem fast.

Supplements are bull****. Drugs are however effective. Not gonna mention the most effective one because it is highly dangerous and you have no business using it. But T3 will boost your metabolism. And then there's of course things like AICAR and GW501516 .....

 

[sittingbison]

gentle(wo)men,
lets keep the direct clinic references in the clinic please

cheers
bison

 

[Tapeworm]

This ^^^^

Calories in calories out is completely misunderstanding the metabolic mechanism of the body and especially the role and function of hormones

That may be the case but it is impossible for the human body to create fat or muscle if the body is utilising more resources than is put in.

Strangely those that strictly adhere to calorie counting lose weight.

But the human body is a complex thing and the number of things which can effect how nutrients and energy is utilised is legion. Gut bacteria is yet another aspect which is currently yielding very interesting information as to exactly how much it play a significant role in our bodies.



And paleo diets... please, fad diets purporting to be scientific fact is just hilarious.

 

[elapid]

And paleo diets... please, fad diets purporting to be scientific fact is just hilarious.

This is where I'll take some exception. Paleo is not a fad diet. Paleo is just Atkins, South Pacific, etc dressed up in another name. Low carb, high protein diets have been used as weight loss diets since the 1880s. Just because the same diet is called something else doesn't make it a fad. Again, read Gary Taubes "Why We Get Fat" and you'll see the science behind these diets. There is more science to support high protein, low carb diets than there is to support the government recommended food pyramids with their heavy emphasis on high carbohydrates, low fats, and low to moderate proteins.