Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[JoãoRamos]

It would be important to test MVP on Kwaremont. This is the only reason I think should have done E3.
Recovery isn't a problem for Pogacar. He can definitely recover better than MVP.

Yes, but they already know the route in every detail.
I don't think Pog needed to test VDP, actually the surprise factor will be a plus imho.

I am so anxious and excited right now, less than 1 day to go.

 

[JoãoRamos]

2023 is a good benchmark. MVP dropped Pogi in MSR and then he got dropped in RVV.
This year, MVP sucked Pogacar's wheel all the way and he wasn't able to drop Pogacar. The level Pogacar showed in MSR, it should give people a idea what will happen tomorrow.

Yes, I also truly believe in this argument.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think VdP stays glued to Pog's wheel and wins in the sprint. He's graced by God at the moment. We'll see.

It will be his strategy. He can't do much more.

 

[JoãoRamos]

Hardly takes a rocket scientist to work out where Pog will attack.

These online polls are a bit of fun but barring a crash impossible to see anyone other than MvP or Pog winning Flanders.

Yes. Everyone knows where it will be the attack.

The thing nobody knows is how hard the race will be.

Knowing that something is going to happen is very different from stopping it.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yes, but they already know the route in every detail.
I don't think Pog needed to test VDP, actually the surprise factor will be a plus imho.

I am so anxious and excited right now, less than 1 day to go.

No matter what, MVP is also a good winner too. Just want a good show, no heavy crashes and let the best win!

 

[JoãoRamos]

I'm rooting for Pog but MVDP is in super form. Will Poggenheimer be enough?

It depends on the size of the nuclear head

I truly believe it will have the size to sink the whole Asia. So we will have to wait and see.

 

[JoãoRamos]

I think VdP stays glued to Pog's wheel and wins in the sprint. He's graced by God at the moment. We'll see.

Hopefully not.

But can I ask why do you think about the difference between 2023 (VDP also won MSR and E3) and this year?

 

[Extinction]

It will be his strategy. He can't do much more.

Well, Pog has to drop him. There are many possibilities for MVdP, but only one for Pogi actually, which is the most devastating, but he has to pull it off.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Well, Pog has to drop him. There are many possibilities for MVdP, but only one for Pogi actually, which is the most devastating, but he has to pull it off.

MVP only has one option or do you really think he can drop Pogacar?

 

[JoãoRamos]

No matter what, MVP is also a good winner too. Just want a good show, no heavy crashes and let the best win!

Yes, I like VDP, he is humble, a true champion.

But I don't want him to win, I truly want to see Pog embarrassing him, I want to see him crack, total annihilation.

 

[Extinction]

Hopefully not.

But can I ask why do you think about the difference between 2023 (VDP also won MSR and E3) and this year?

Because MvDP is better this year. The fact that he resisted multiple attacks from the Cipressa in MSR proves it. Pog is stronger too, but we have to see.

 

[JoãoRamos]

Well, Pog has to drop him. There are many possibilities for MVdP, but only one for Pogi actually, which is the most devastating, but he has to pull it off.

As I see, the only possibility for VDP is try to follow Pog and win in the sprint. He can't drop Pog.

 

[Extinction]

MVP only has one option or do you really think he can drop Pogacar?

No, he can benefit from many race situations in Flanders, all things being equal. The point is that Pog cannot arrive with MVdP to the line or else he loses.

 

[Extinction]

As I see, the only possibility for VDP is try to follow Pog and win in the sprint. He can't drop Pog.

Sure, but we are talking about Flanders, where race situations can evolve to where Pog can't drop him, which is why I say the Slovenian has only one chance.

 

[JoãoRamos]

Because MvDP is better this year. The fact that he resisted multiple attacks from the Cipressa in MSR proves it. Pog is stronger too, but we have to see.

I am really not 100% sure about this theory that he is better only because he resisted Cipressa.

Ganna also resisted.

So imho I don't think he is better this year only because he resisted Pog's attacks.

Also, Pog is so much better in 2025 comparing to 2023.
Last year he had the best season ever.

He is rewriting the rules of MSR. What he did in MSR is amazing, even if he didn't win.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I am really not 100% sure about this theory that he is better only because he resisted Cipressa.

Ganna also resisted.

So imho I don't think he is better this year only because he resisted Pog's attacks.

Also, Pog is so much better in 2025 comparing to 2023.
Last year he had the best season ever.

He is rewriting the rules of MSR. What he did in MSR is amazing, even if he didn't win.

I completely agree with this. What Pogi did on MSR is something MVP couldn't even dare to dream of.

 

[JoãoRamos]

Sure, but we are talking about Flanders, where race situations can evolve to where Pog can't drop him, which is why I say the Slovenian has only one chance.

Yes, the best chances for both:

Pog: drop VDP

VDP: follow Pog and win in the sprint.

There is no way in hell Pog allow VDP to go in a breakaway or something like that. They will mark each other.

 

[Extinction]

I am really not 100% sure about this theory that he is better only because he resisted Cipressa.

Ganna also resisted.

So imho I don't think he is better this year only because he resisted Pog's attacks.

Also, Pog is so much better in 2025 comparing to 2023.
Last year he had the best season ever.

He is rewriting the rules of MSR. What he did in MSR is amazing, even if he didn't win.

Ah, but Ganna is also better too. I think MVP, unlike 2023, may be capable of resisting Pog on the Kwarmount in 2025. It's just a feeling, so we shall see.

 

[Peyroteo94]

No, he can benefit from many race situations in Flanders, all things being equal. The point is that Pog cannot arrive with MVdP to the line or else he loses.

I partly agree. He already won a sprint against Pedersen after a hard race. But of course his chances are slim.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yes, the best chances for both:

Pog: drop VDP

VDP: follow Pog and win in the sprint.

There is no way in hell Pog allow VDP to go in a breakaway or something like that. They will mark each other.

This is what I was trying to say. MVP only has one option too. If he can't follow Pogacar is game over.

 

[JoãoRamos]

Ah, but Ganna is also better too. I think MVP, unlike 2023, may be capable of resisting Pog on the Kwarmount in 2025. It's just a feeling, so we shall see.

For me, the race will be decided in this very detail.

Pog can or can't drop VDP?

 

[Extinction]

I partly agree. He already won a sprint against Pedersen after a hard race. But of course his chances are slim.

All I'm saying is that MVP is formidable right now and this is his terrain. So logically, if everything goes right, Pog shall have his hands full.

 

[Peyroteo94]

All I'm saying is that MVP is formitable right now and this is his terrain. So logically, if everything goes right, Pog shall have his hands full.

And Pogacar isn't "formitable"?

 

[JoãoRamos]

All I'm saying is that MVP is formitable right now and this is his terrain. So logically, if everything goes right, Pog shall have his hands full.

Yes. It will be an epic race, decided in the capacity of VDP to resist Pog's nuclear bombs during the race.

I truly believe VDP and Pipo are better this year comparing to 2023.
They evolved, for sure.

But I feel like Pog made an even bigger leap last year.

Of course, I can't take this anymore, 18 hours to go hahaha

 

[Peyroteo94]

Yes. It will be an epic race, decided in the capacity of VDP to resist Pog's nuclear bombs during the race.

I truly believe VDP and Pipo are better this year comparing to 2023.
They evolved, for sure.

But I feel like Pog made an even bigger leap last year.

Of course, I can't take this anymore, 18 hours to go hahaha

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