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Peyroteo94

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These old riders and now managers love to give some advices but are they forgetting Pogacar is a 3 times TdF winner? He knows how to win the Tour. If he wants to give some advice, talk to Remco or Roglic since they never won the Tour and it would be important they were closer to Vingegaard and Pogacar.

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Peyroteo94 said:
These old riders and now managers love to give some advices but are they forgetting Pogacar is a 3 times TdF winner? He knows how to win the Tour. If he wants to give some advice, talk to Remco or Roglic since they never won the Tour and it would be important they were closer to Vingegaard and Pogacar.

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'The Tour is three weeks with a lot of pitfalls' - veteran team boss Marc Madiot warns Tadej Pogačar of the dangers of the Tour de France

Groupama-FDJ manager runs the rule over the Tour favourites - 'There's clearly a gap between the two of them and the rest'
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What do you feel he said was wrong? He just says Pogacar is the best by far, but you never know 3 weeks is a long time and you can't control everything.

You literally always say you hope no one crashes. That's the same as Madiot is saying here.
 
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Berniece said:
What do you feel he said was wrong? He just says Pogacar is the best by far, but you never know 3 weeks is a long time and you can't control everything.

You literally always say you hope no one crashes. That's the same as Madiot is saying here.
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He didn't say anything wrong. He just said the most obvious thing ever and he is almost pretending Pogacar isn't aware that he can lose the Tour for different reasons.
 
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Berniece said:
I think he's just saying those things so that people still watch and aren't bored about the result that is very likely to happen
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What a turnaround. A couple months ago, you were almost sure Vingegaard would win the Tour again.
I believe Pogacar will win the Tour but I don't expect such a big difference between Vingo and him like we all saw the Dauphiné.
 
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Berniece said:
I still think Vingegaard will win the TDF, but that's not the general consensus around people watching cycling.
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I think it will be much closer than many people expect. I don’t think it will be a blow out that some may expect and the two are pretty evenly matched when matching their strengths to the parcours.

That said it is difficult to ignore the improvements Pog has made since 2023 and his dominance at the Dauphine. If i were a betting man and was pushed to put a bet i would definitely put it on Pog but Jonas beating Pog would definitely not be a shock.

The first 9 stages are riddled with risks - nobody wants to see misfortune but it would be very surprising if everybody escapes unscathed- ultimately how the big protagonists come through those first 9 days may determine the outcome.
 
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I think it will be much closer than many people expect. I don’t think it will be a blow out that some may expect and the two are pretty evenly matched when matching their strengths to the parcours.

That said it is difficult to ignore the improvements Pog has made since 2023 and his dominance at the Dauphine. If i were a betting man and was pushed to put a bet i would definitely put it on Pog but Jonas beating Pog would definitely not be a shock.

The first 9 stages are riddled with risks - nobody wants to see misfortune but it would be very surprising if everybody escapes unscathed- ultimately how the big protagonists come through those first 9 days may determine the outcome.
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Pogacar only needs to arrive to stage 10 with two legs after that all we gonna hear is the rants from lance & his podcast partners for him chasing a random american on the vontoux & lozes of this world
 
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Jan the Man said:
I think it will be much closer than many people expect. I don’t think it will be a blow out that some may expect and the two are pretty evenly matched when matching their strengths to the parcours.

That said it is difficult to ignore the improvements Pog has made since 2023 and his dominance at the Dauphine. If i were a betting man and was pushed to put a bet i would definitely put it on Pog but Jonas beating Pog would definitely not be a shock.

The first 9 stages are riddled with risks - nobody wants to see misfortune but it would be very surprising if everybody escapes unscathed- ultimately how the big protagonists come through those first 9 days may determine the outcome.
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I used to have the same opinion before Dauphiné but not anymore and people thinking otherwise are just praying for a close race. However wishful thinking is just wishful thinking, facts and numbers don't lie even if we want to believe the opposite.
Jonas is close to his best and I seriously believe Pogacar can improve even more compared to Jonas. This dude is a freak!
 
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Peyroteo94

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YavorD said:
Yes, I would wait for at least the Pyrenees to draw some conclusions.
Pogacar dominated CD, but there are so many people improving massively between CD and TDF that I don't think we can use it as a real expectation.
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We had Remco last year but he was bulding his shape yet due to his crash in Pais Vasco. This year, he won't improve significantly (but he will be in better shape compared to last year). Vingegaard never showed a huge improvement between CdD and the Tour so I would not count on him to be better than Pogacar, not even the one who raced the Dauphiné.
 
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