Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

Vuelta leader O'Connor says it is 'a lot more enjoyable' racing without Pogacar and Vingegaard

Vuelta leader Ben O’Connor has admitted it is “a lot more enjoyable” racing a Grand Tour without facing competition from Jonas Vingegaard and Tadej Pogacar.

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Ben Healy is now a big man, aiming for victory in Strade Bianche: "Everyone is a bit afraid of Pogacar"

Strade Bianche is a race where many can win, but this Saturday there is only one real top favorite at the starting line. We are of course talking about Tadej Pogacar, with Tom Pidcock as the defending...

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'Like you're not even one of his rivals' – Romain Bardet highlights Tadej Pogačar's crushing superiority

Slovenian's 2024 victories in 'at least 10 races' a foregone conclusion, says veteran Frenchman

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"Best of the mortals" has strong message for those feeling discouraged by Pogacar and co

In a world with Tadej Pogacar, Jonas Vingegaard, Remco Evenepoel, Primoz Roglic, Wout van Aert and Mathieu van der Poel, winning often feels like an illusion. A podium slot in a monument is celebrated...

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Remco Evenepoel on Tadej Pogačar: He's not the same as us

Belgian was unable to follow Tadej Pogačar's attack on the climb to Isola 2000 on Friday

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Those examples show they (a lot of "human" riders) really fear racing with Pogacar. They are defeated even before the start of the race. Maybe fear is not the best word but they are resigned for sure when they see the rainbow jersey on the startlist.
There are many more examples to be honest.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I forgot to say one thing. We don't need to be very clever to acknowledge the peloton is racing for second in many races Pogacar is racing.
LBL 2025 is a prime example of that.

 

[Charlyghoul]

I forgot to say one thing. We don't need to be very clever to acknowledge the peloton is racing for second in many races Pogacar is racing.
LBL 2025 is a prime example of that.

Pog has lost it mentally, probably Vingegaard can beat him now at the tour

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pog has lost it mentally, probably Vingegaard can beat him now at the tour

Yeah, right...

 

[Charlyghoul]

Yeah, right...

It’s easy to forget Pogacar is only 3-2 head to head at the tour. That is not really so dominant. Vingegaard will be a live dog if Pogacar is not so motivated

 

[Peyroteo94]

It’s easy to forget Pogacar is only 3-2 head to head at the tour. That is not really so dominant. Vingegaard will be a live dog if Pogacar is not so motivated

Yeah, right...

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Pog has lost it mentally, probably Vingegaard can beat him now at the tour

He had some lapse, time will tell if its lasting. His autumn performances will tell us more. For now, he's still the favourite in most of races he enters (including the Tour).

 

[Charlyghoul]

Yeah, right...

You shouldn’t expect Pog to carry on at this level for too long , but we’ll see.
Yes only 3-2 head to head it’s not that great for the ‘goat.
If he wins the next two tours then it’s different

 

[Peyroteo94]

You shouldn’t expect Pog to carry on at this level for too long , but we’ll see.
Yes only 3-2 head to head it’s not that great for the ‘goat.
If he wins the next two tours then it’s different

3-2 in the TdF. What does this tell us about Pogacar losing the edge to Vingegaard?

 

[Netserk]

Quebec is simply not an easy race for him to win.

New route should be easier to win on?

 

[Peyroteo94]

New route should be easier to win on?

I don't know. It is a wall of 300m only.

 

[Rou]

I don't know. It is a wall of 300m only.

Come on. He's the 'goat' with only 43 race days. He should be able to win a prep race in Canada.

 

[Red Rick]

New route should be easier to win on?

They changed it?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I don't know. It is a wall of 300m only.

Teddy should lose from time to time to stay motivated and its a good race to lose.

 

[Rou]

Teddy should lose from time to time to stay motivated and its a good race to lose.

He lost a couple of stages in the Tour that he wanted to win so...
Maybe time to change it a bit, eh?

 

[Peyroteo94]

Come on. He's the 'goat' with only 43 race days. He should be able to win a prep race in Canada.

They will take less than 1' to climb this. It is not a sure deal like Montreal.

 

[Rou]

They will take less than 1' to climb this. It is not a sure deal like Montreal.

If the profile I'm looking at is correct they are doing a million reps of Cote de la Montagne (600 m at 8.6 %).
I don't know if this is true but this is an insane profile.

 

[Rou]

216 km with 18 laps of that steep hill. Pogacar should walk this.

 

[Peyroteo94]

If the profile I'm looking at is correct they are doing a million reps of Cote de la Montagne (600 m at 8.6 %).
I don't know if this is true but this is an insane profile.

I think you are wrong.

Côte de la Montagne • Québec, Canada • Col

Le Côte de la Montagne est un col de 353 mètres. Il est situé à Québec, Québec, Canada.

mycols.app

 

[Rou]

I think you are wrong.

Côte de la Montagne • Québec, Canada • Col

Le Côte de la Montagne est un col de 353 mètres. Il est situé à Québec, Québec, Canada.

mycols.app

It's the same climb. 600 m at 8.6%. The steepest 350 m at 10 %. A million reps of this will destroy De Lie and Van Aert.

 

[Peyroteo94]

It's the same climb. 600 m at 8.6%. The steepest 350 m at 10 %. A million reps of this will destroy De Lie and Van Aert.

Do you have a profile?

 

[Rou]

Do you have a profile?

Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec | UCI World Tour | Sept. 12, 2025

The 14th edition of the Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec starts from the Place George-V at 11:00 am. See the circuit and the participating teams!

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In the official site it's mentioned as 600 m at 9%.

Stage profiles Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec 2025 One day race

Stage profile, mountains profiles, final five kilometre profile, race map, steepness percentage profiles for Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec 2025.

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PCS have it similar - 600 m at 8.6 %.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec | UCI World Tour | Sept. 12, 2025

The 14th edition of the Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec starts from the Place George-V at 11:00 am. See the circuit and the participating teams!

gpcqm.ca

In the official site it's mentioned as 600 m at 9%.

Stage profiles Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec 2025 One day race

Stage profile, mountains profiles, final five kilometre profile, race map, steepness percentage profiles for Grand Prix Cycliste de Québec 2025.

www.procyclingstats.com

PCS have it similar - 600 m at 8.6 %.

Thanks mate. This changes a lot. Pogacar will definitely cook De Lie and WVA.

 

[Lequack]

Thanks mate. This changes a lot. Pogacar will definitely cook De Lie and WVA.

Didn't WVA just cook Pog on a similar climb in the Tour?

 

[Peyroteo94]

Didn't WVA just cook Pog on a similar climb in the Tour?

No.
One thing is (real) racing 60 km like we had in Paris. Other thing is a classic of 220 km against a fresh Pogacar with 2610 of elevation gain.