Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Rou]

Hopefully Pogi is watching carefully.
MVDP is as strong as always and will be a pain in San Remo and Roubaix.
In the mean time a French teenager is improving with every single race and might cause him problems sooner than expected.

 

[LookProGoSlow]

Hopefully Pogi is watching carefully.
MVDP is as strong as always and will be a pain in San Remo and Roubaix.
In the mean time a French teenager is improving with every single race and might cause him problems sooner than expected.

Pogi's days are numbered... not

 

[Cycling111]

Hopefully Pogi is watching carefully.
MVDP is as strong as always and will be a pain in San Remo and Roubaix.
In the mean time a French teenager is improving with every single race and might cause him problems sooner than expected.

Well, from what they say, this year he won't even win the Tour because of Seixas .

Cycling is a sport of feelings; maybe in a week they'll say it's boring again, but today social media will be saying Seixas can win the Tour.

With Pogacar, there's always that dichotomy between hating him for being boring or undervaluing him and thinking everyone will beat him when the season starts.

They're also undervaluing who is Vingegaard in the Tour. Seixas and Del Toro won't even finish second.

 

[Rou]

Well, from what they say, this year he won't even win the Tour because of Seixas .

Cycling is a sport of feelings; maybe in a week they'll say it's boring again, but today social media will be saying Seixas can win the Tour.

With Pogacar, there's always that dichotomy between hating him for being boring or undervaluing him and thinking everyone will beat him when the season starts.

They're also undervaluing who is Vingegaard in the Tour. Seixas and Del Toro won't even finish second.

If I was Decathlon's manager I would send Seixas to the Vuelta this year.
With full preparation he can give Roglic a proper fight.
In 2 years (if he keeps developing like this) he can challenge Pogacar.
That's what I meant. Pogacar should focus on winning the missing races from his palmares.
He can't postpone the Vuelta until 2029-2030. He'll be surpassed by then.

 

[Rou]

Anyways next week will be a proper measurement of Seixas against Pogacar in Strade.

 

[AmRacer]

Anyways next week will be a proper measurement of Seixas against Pogacar in Strade.

Sexias gives up after 100k of racing?

 

[Rou]

Sexias gives up after 100k of racing?

Let's wait and see. Pidcock survived Pog's attack on Sante Marie last year.
Strade is not some super hard mountain stage where fatigue is a big factor.

 

[AmRacer]

Let's wait and see. Pidcock survived Pog's attack on Sante Marie last year.
Strade is not some super hard mountain stage where fatigue is a big factor.

Pidcock can ride on gravel,

 

[Cycling111]

If I was Decathlon's manager I would send Seixas to the Vuelta this year.
With full preparation he can give Roglic a proper fight.
In 2 years (if he keeps developing like this) he can challenge Pogacar.
That's what I meant. Pogacar should focus on winning the missing races from his palmares.
He can't postpone the Vuelta until 2029-2030. He'll be surpassed by then.

I wasn't referring to you when I mentioned Seixas. I've already read some comments about him on this forum, and especially on social media.

Against VDP, he'll never be the favorite in San Remo and Roubaix, but that's what I like most about him: he accepts that challenge instead of going for the easy wins of Paris-Nice or Tirreno-Adriatico. He could arrive to Romandie with several victories under his belt. That's why I'd like to see VDP at Strade Bianche.

 

[Cycling111]

Pidcock can ride on gravel,

Yes, today's result is misleading because he was affected by the accidents and because Pidcock is definitely not a rider for cobbles. He'll definitely be in front at Strade Bianche.

I think Pogacar started last season a more relax. It was noticeable in the UAE Tour where he was far from his climbing times and climbed at a steady pace.In 2024 he started stronger, perhaps because of the Giro. Last year I suppose he wanted to be fresher at the end of the season, feeling like such a strong favorite for Rwanda.

 

[rafa92]

https://watts2win.eu/it/cyclist/20617/performance

looking at the watts and the difficulty of the race seixas is at roughly the same level he was at in lombardia and europeans last year, or a bit below. I expect him to actually be close to pogacar in SB but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Also the fact he's not even 20 years old might be misleading, the point is that to me he seems already super maximised, (looking at his body composition and listening to his interview about his trainings). Look at what happened to remco and ayuso, who were both stronger than pog at 19. Only time will tell but it's too early to predict how good seixas will really be (I personally expect to be significantly better than remco and ayuso but we'll see)

 

[Cycling111]

https://watts2win.eu/it/cyclist/20617/performance

looking at the watts and the difficulty of the race seixas is at roughly the same level he was at in lombardia and europeans last year, or a bit below. I expect him to actually be close to pogacar in SB but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Also the fact he's not even 20 years old might be misleading, the point is that to me he seems already super maximised, (looking at his body composition and listening to his interview about his trainings). Look at what happened to remco and ayuso, who were both stronger than pog at 19. Only time will tell but it's too early to predict how good seixas will really be (I personally expect to be significantly better than remco and ayuso but we'll see)

It's impressive because of his age, but that doesn't mean he's going to fight the Tour this year as they said in social media or any of the other things they are saying.

I just want to remind that Vignegaard, the year he turned 24, was a domestique and months later he was second in the Tour, and the following year he won it. Perhaps the future winner of the Tour is a rider who is currently doing absolutely nothing more than pulling the peloton for his leader.

Seixas is very good, and I'm one of those who think he'll win several Tours, but Pogacar and Vignegaard's level in the Tour is very high.
For me, they'll all be fighting for third place, and I apply this to Del Toro, who I think will be worse than Seixas in the high mountains in the future.
But, How they go from calling it a boring domain to saying that several will beat them this year.

I mean, he's very impressive,, but we have to put all this into perspective.
Anyway, in January Remco was going to win the Tour, last week Del Toro, and this week Seixas

 

[James M]

https://watts2win.eu/it/cyclist/20617/performance

looking at the watts and the difficulty of the race seixas is at roughly the same level he was at in lombardia and europeans last year, or a bit below. I expect him to actually be close to pogacar in SB but let's not get ahead of ourselves. Also the fact he's not even 20 years old might be misleading, the point is that to me he seems already super maximised, (looking at his body composition and listening to his interview about his trainings). Look at what happened to remco and ayuso, who were both stronger than pog at 19. Only time will tell but it's too early to predict how good seixas will really be (I personally expect to be significantly better than remco and ayuso but we'll see)

Seixas is awesome truly an incredible talent love him but the last thing he should do is be compared to Pogacar.

Thats a recipe for disaster. We dont want him ending up like the rest of the competition who’ve already gotten ptsd and nitpick every race Poggo doesnt enter

 

[Cycling111]

Seixas is awesome truly an incredible talent love him but the last thing we should do is be compared to Pogacar.

Thats a recipe for disaster. We dont want him ending up like the rest of the competition who’ve already gotten ptsd and nitpick every race Poggo doesnt enter

The biggest ptsd will be seeing that tjhey won´t even close to Vingegaard in the Tour, even if he wins the Giro.

Perhaps they'll close the gap because of it, but they have forgotten very easily. that the difference to third place was still enormous.

If I had to pick one, I think Seixas will be the one to close the gap the most because the course is easy. With a difficult course, Vingegaard would still put a lot of distance between them. I think he'll put a considerable amount of time between Del Toro and Remco despite the course.

 

[Cycling111]

I wonder if Pogacar will ever have a go at this

I'm bringing this comment from the Omloop thread. I think it's an interesting point.


As long as he wants to win the Tour, he can't overload his calendar with classics; he has to do one-week stage races as training.

I think if Pogacar wins this Tour and the next, he'll have six Tour de France and he´ll withdraw from the Tour. In 2028 he'll do the Olympics and the Vuelta and

In 2028 he'd have to choose between another Giro d'Italia or a season of classics.
I believe that in 2028 he´ll do the Giro-Olympics-Vuelta, like Nibali.
In 2029 he'll value if he can fight the Tour or does he want to make the effort that it will require at 31.

I think if Pogacar wins the next two Tours, he'll retire of the Tour. In 2028, he'll do what I said, and from 2029 he'll spend two or three seasons doing what he loves, the Classics, He'll spend his last two or three years riding those Classics he can't do now and enjoying himself without thinking about the Tour or any GT, especially if he holds the record (official) with 6.

 

[canina82]

Hopefully Pogi is watching carefully.
MVDP is as strong as always and will be a pain in San Remo and Roubaix.
In the mean time a French teenager is improving with every single race and might cause him problems sooner than expected.

MVP is doing what we are expecting from him.
Seixas? C'mon...

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Hopefully Pogi is watching carefully.
MVDP is as strong as always and will be a pain in San Remo and Roubaix.
In the mean time a French teenager is improving with every single race and might cause him problems sooner than expected.

MVP is the main roadblock in MSR and Roubaix but at least there are important races where Pogacar has a big chance of losing (imagine if there were none...). Their duels should lighten up the spring.
As for Seixas, we will see. I can imagine that in 2-3 years he will become a serious Tour contender (it's also likely that Pogacar will start declining then). Those guys' primes won't overlap much anyway.