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With this disastrous team performance (apart from Pog, Wellens, and Del Toro), maybe UAE finally realizes that they should put their A team if they want to win MSR. Where's the likes of Bjerg, Politt, maybe FFB, when you need them?
 
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You just can't win Sanremo riding this way. The Poggio is just not a climb where you ride everyone off your wheel. Try attacking on the Cipressa and see who follows, try to attack earlier on the Poggio when MvdP isn't glued to your wheel yet, anything. But this just isn't working.
 
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Great performance and another podium in a monument!

What a rider.

He will be back next time and give it another go, knowing it is hard but winning this race would be a great achievement. I think he just loves the challenge of it.
 
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Pog with a nice launch at the very top of the climb like mvp did last year. But could not stay away like mvp last year
 
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Gigs_98 said:
You just can't win Sanremo riding this way. The Poggio is just not a climb where you ride everyone off your wheel. Try attacking on the Cipressa and see who follows, try to attack earlier on the Poggio when MvdP isn't glued to your wheel yet, anything. But this just isn't working.
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I would try the exact same plan again except for position into the cipressa better. If that means less pulling until closer to then, fine

We know pog can’t stay away on the decent. So it has to be up the poggio with fewer guys that can outsprint him to the finish
 
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scribers said:
Pog with a nice launch at the very top of the climb like mvp did last year. But could not stay away like mvp last year
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But the move was good. He slowed down after the first attack and caught everyone by surprise before the top. Still, even if he had had 2-3 more seconds of gap on Poggio it's likely that he would've got caught on the descent anyway. This is his relative weakpoint for MSR, bigger than sprinting.
 
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Red Rick said:
Hey now, I'm absolving Teddy of blame cause his team was too shite.
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I think Novak, Covi, Del Toro and Wellens did a great job.

Ulissi and Hirschi got lost in the run-in to Cipressa. The former not having a good day.

Hirschi came back but it has to be said he was at the back of the peloton for most of the day. Maybe not at his best either.

You never know how some riders will go before a race. It is easy to go at them in hindsight.

They probably missed a Politt or Bjerg in the team, as a couple noted in the race thread. Myself included.

And instead of discrediting UAE, some credit also has to be given to other teams. It is not like UAE can just do what they want in this race, no matter who they select. Most teams have their best line-up here and will ride to keep it together. Wants a sprint and make it hard for UAE to dictate. Let them get a clean run-in to Cipressa and so on.

Can things also be done better, of course, but getting everything right in this race is incredibly difficult. Thats also the charm of this race. I guess you either hate or love it.
 
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Awful team performance and it seems that I have to write this too often about UAE. Why not bring Bjerg and Politt to cover the three small hills and the turny flats and especially the positioning. Have Del Toro and Wellens fresh for what they are supposed to do. And for fucks sake don't select the wannabe semi-classic "stars" Ulissi and Hirschi. What the *** was this? If you are not good enough (and its anyway not your role) to feature in the end, do some *** work.
 
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Salvarani said:
And instead of discrediting UAE, some credit also has to be given to other teams. It is not like UAE can just do what they want in this race, no matter who they select. Most teams have their best line-up here and will ride to keep it together. Wants a sprint.
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True, the likes of Alpecin, Ineos or Trek played it very well and were positioned better. But that still doesn't absolve UAE.
 
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Salvarani said:
I think Novak, Covi, Del Toro and Wellens did a great job.

Ulissi and Hirschi got lost in the run-in to Cipressa. The former not having a good day.

Hirschi came back but it has to be said he was at the back of the peloton for most of the day. Maybe not at his best either.

You never know how some riders will go before a race. It is easy to go at them in hindsight.

They probably missed a Politt or Bjerg in the team, as a couple noted in the race thread. Myself included.

And instead of discrediting UAE, some credit also has to be given to other teams. It is not like UAE can just do what they want in this race, no matter who they select. Most teams have their best line-up here and will ride to keep it together. Wants a sprint and make it hard for UAE to dictate. Let them get a clean run-in to Cipressa and so on.

Can things also be done better, of course, but getting everything right in this race is incredibly difficult. Thats also the charm of this race. I guess you either hate or love it.
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I sign what is written, that's it
 
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Red Rick said:
UAE need to decide if they're serious about winning Sanremo or not next year.
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Lot's of money but horrible sports directors and a general manager with no understanding of tactics.

They are a joke of a team with the best rider in the world. Nothing has chance for the last 4 years.
 
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True, the likes of Alpecin, Ineos or Trek played it very well and were positioned better. But that still doesn't absolve UAE.
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I think saying they performed awfully is a terrible take, thats not very accurate at all.

It is just a very difficult race to get everything right.
 
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Salvarani said:
I think saying they performed awfully is a terrible take, thats not very accurate at all.

It is just a very difficult race to get everything right.
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What was goo about it? With 3-4km to go at the Cipressa everyone was cooked and tempo dropped considerably. Not how you can win this race. Is it easy? No. But the showing was simply not good. Del Toro and Wellens did put in some sacrifice and did well, Novak and Covi as expected but you know - there are two more riders.
 
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he doesn't need tactics for Catalonia, Liege, Giro and Tour, and he will have the best team for the world championships
 
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for these ciciban races he needs tactics, the right sports director, the right helpers, everyone at 100%, and in the upcoming races, the legs will speak for themselves
 
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