Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Armchair Cyclist]

I assume WC will return to August after le tour, which will be Pogi's main problem. If so, running the giro again will extract the necessary energy. Pogi will want to collect as many WCRR as he possibly can. One is great, but 3 is even better.

I believe the August Worlds will be every 4 years, when it is in conjunction with most of the other cycling world championships, so next in 20127. Otherwise late September.

Edit: inaccurate fingers rather than reversing timeline.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I believe the August Worlds will be every 4 years, when it is in conjunction with most of the other cycling world championships, so next in 2017. Otherwise late September.

2027. I think WC shoud be raced in early October to bring Vuelta back to September.

 

[ArnaudVDL]

What's the difference?

I always think of the classics as the races between the season opener and LBL. So I give mvdp the edge there, based on his results. But I consider Pogacar to be the best one day racer because he can win almost any one day race, with Mathieu that is not the case. But maybe that is just my definition.

 

[pihi42]

Pog's 2024 season can be looked at (among many) from this angle:
He competed in 9 separate races (if we count stage races as a single race) and he won 7 of them.
Not even the currently reigning GOAT approached this stat.
Now you might say "he only competes when he's sure he'll win" but Tour/Giro/WC/Liege/Strade don't look exactly as races one would pick for being easy to win.
He only failed at MSR (3rd) and Quebec(admitted a tactical mistake).

 

[Dekker_Tifosi]

pretty much in style to round of the season
I really thought 100km was too far, but when the Belgium team was blown within a lap, I knew it wasn't too far.

It's crazy. People do not understand how much stronger than everyone else you have to be to be able to pull this off. And I don't even think this was top form pogi. TDF Pogi was better..
Isanity. Noboby can stop this man but himself.

 

[James M]

It's crazy. People do not understand how much stronger than everyone else you have to be to be able to pull this off. And I don't even think this was top form pogi. TDF Pogi was better..
Isanity. Noboby can stop this man but himself.

+1 word.

 

[James M]

Pogacar is of a surreal realm. He can kick the strongest version of VDP in Flanders.. I have no words of the insane level of that man

While having a FTP of 7w/kg in the mountains and a able to sustain over 7.3w/kg end of stages for almost 40min while closest rivals go into red and blow up by sniffing 7.

 

[Savant12]

Yes, @Logic-is-your-friend can tell you all about it. You simply asses who is more aerodynamic on TT bike et voila, he’s a better rouleur😁

Take away Remco's aerodynamic package and he is a lesser rider.

 

[Lequack]

Pogacar got a bit emotional talking about Urska

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrZaWPnD0Zc

 

[hayneplane]

I still would consider Van der Poel to be the best classics rider. But Pogacar is definitely the best one day racer.

How does that even work? Sounds like pure copium.

Maybe you could say MVDP is the best cobbled classics rider but if Tadej rode more of them it would severely cut into MVDPs record of dominance.

The Ronde Van Vlaanderen is the closest to 50/50 parity in parcours suitability for both riders and in two editions MVDP has never dropped Pogacar.

 

[mlescanojr]

Take away Remco's aerodynamic package and he is a lesser rider.

He is a lesser rider even with all the package he wants.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pogacar's engine is way superior to anyone in the peloton. Only Wout comes close. Aerodymanic is another thing and that's why Remco is such a phenomenon in flat TTs (he also has a great engine).

 

[Peyroteo94]

I always think of the classics as the races between the season opener and LBL. So I give mvdp the edge there, based on his results. But I consider Pogacar to be the best one day racer because he can win almost any one day race, with Mathieu that is not the case. But maybe that is just my definition.

I respect your opinion but that doesn't make sense

 

[Pippo_San]

GOAT

 

[Miha81]

I guess the GOAT was really impressed by best cyclist of current generation

“What he did is unbelievable. I have no words for it,” Merckx told Le Parisien. He could not believe his eyes when Pogacar attacked a hundred kilometers from the finish. “You have to be crazy for that,” he sounded laughing. “When he attacked, I started to fear him. I was sure that Tadej had left way too early. Normally it is impossible to win after such a long attack, but Tadej did it.”

“He’s the strongest rider of his generation. There is no doubt about that,” said the 79-year-old Merckx. “You know, it takes a lot to blow my socks off at my age. Well, Tadej has succeeded. I suspected he could be world champion, but never like this. He’s really the best – congratulations.”

« Attaquer à 100 km, il faut être fou » : Eddy Merckx bluffé par le triomphe de Tadej Pogacar aux Mondiaux

Le Slovène, qui a étrillé ses adversaires lors des Mondiaux de Zurich, marche sur les pas du « Cannibale ». Même si, de son propre aveu, le

www.leparisien.fr

 

[snipeheem]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1840642266622255509

View: https://x.com/inrng/status/1840642266622255509

 

[Peyroteo94]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1840642266622255509

View: https://x.com/inrng/status/1840642266622255509

Ouch, haters will have a hard night of sleep eheheh. Just joking, I still think Pogi needs a little bit of palmares to overcome Merckx

 

[Berniece]

I wasn't able to watch the race, but what a feat. I followed a ticker, and when he went at 100km's I thought nice, he's going to blow himself up. But he didn't. Tactically an amazing move, he was also clearly the strongest. Well deserved World Champion.

 

[snipeheem]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1840645221929095514

View: https://x.com/Domestique___/status/1840645221929095514

 

[Salvarani]

Eddy says Pog is the GOAT

 

[Offline]

UAE should sign Primozic and give him one year with Sola and the UAE set-up.
Pogacar going to need climber domestique for next years worlds.

 

[Divergence]

Pogacar got a bit emotional talking about Urska

View: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SrZaWPnD0Zc

So that is why he attacked with 100km to go. He needed those kms to process all of his emotions. And even then it was not enough.

 

[Divergence]

It seemed to me that he was playing with the whole peloton yesterday. Letting them come to 40ish seconds and than gaining 15 sec back with 10 pedalstrokes.

 

[Miha81]

So that is why he attacked with 100km to go. He needed those kms to process all of his emotions. And even then it was not enough.

It was a loooong processing of emotions

 

[Salvarani]

It seemed to me that he was playing with the whole peloton yesterday. Letting them come to 40ish seconds and than gaining 15 sec back with 10 pedalstrokes.

Very good pacing.

Steady.

Instead of stop and go like the chase, who tired themselves out.