I think that kind of fatigue easily carries over to next year, and could affect prep quite a bit.
The first rider that I followed on twitter was Cav (2014ish) because his post race stuff was great! Ben King was pretty good too, as was Taylor Phinney, but he would post 10 things in one day and then go OWL for a week or two.
In fact, for many years the only people who I followed on twitter were athletes so that I could get their raw post competition words, but now I've gone down the rabbit hole!
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I think the harm to his Lombardia chances are greater than what he can get from the Vuelta. And I also think he needs time off. Similar to next year with Olympics after the Tour and (Worlds/)Lombardia later.
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I think he’s getting quite popular in Slovenia in recent years (Roglic still the man to beat as was proven in Višarje). We like the underdogs as well. Pog the underdog🤣What a silly world we live in…
Anyway - almost all of my (cycling enthusiasts) friends were pissed at Pog in 2020 and couldn’t stand him. And all of them root for him now… I can’t wait for Pogacar and Roglic to stack up against each other to see the reaction - myself included… I think when the time comes, the heart will still beat for the mountain sprinter 😉
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Is that really a thing? I’ve heard of overtaxing, but not so much in the recent years…
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https://www.cyclingnews.com/news/i-cracked-myself-pogacars-big-takeaway-from-tour/
"The team defied Pogacar's shot at a third consecutive maillot jaune last season with a tactical masterclass on stage 11. But Pogačar shrugged off the suggestion that their purported plan worked this year.
"The only moment where they really tried to crack me was, I mean they cracked me on Marie Blanque [stage 5] because he was just so much better, and then next day they tried to crack me completely but then I win the stage," Pogačar said.
"Then after, I just cracked myself, nobody else cracked me."
"It was all on me and nobody else did anything on me. It was me and my bad feeling."
"I cracked myself."
(I wonder what "bad feeling" actually means. Sickness, lack of preparation? )
"The team defied Pogacar's shot at a third consecutive maillot jaune last season with a tactical masterclass on stage 11. But Pogačar shrugged off the suggestion that their purported plan worked this year.
"The only moment where they really tried to crack me was, I mean they cracked me on Marie Blanque [stage 5] because he was just so much better, and then next day they tried to crack me completely but then I win the stage," Pogačar said.
"Then after, I just cracked myself, nobody else cracked me."
"It was all on me and nobody else did anything on me. It was me and my bad feeling."
"I cracked myself."
(I wonder what "bad feeling" actually means. Sickness, lack of preparation? )
It would be sad to see him do an Armstrong program where it’s barely race to peak for the Tour but it might be his only chance to win it now
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Unless Vinge isn’t able to repeat this level.
Who knows, the three headed trident could go better than Movistar if they’re able to stay close in GC. Only issue is I see Almeida being as far back as Adam and Ayuso would have to take some steps.
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In the fight for yellow, Adam’s GC was of no use this year. The drop down to third is just too big for this to be more than a fight between two riders only.
Only Rogla could pose a threat, albeit last year a fake one.
Only Rogla could pose a threat, albeit last year a fake one.
True. Jumbo are too strong for Yates to be a real headache where Jonas himself has to react.
turned out though it was pretty nice for UAE to have him take another podium spot.
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I simply don't think Pog is able to recover enough to win the Vuelta (and his camp probably realizes it too). Looking at previous years he's not that good at fast recovering from a 3-week race. The Tour cost him a lot, it was a battle of huge wattages. It's not like he coasted through the Tour without engaging afterburners. So in this case no Lombardia is a big loss. Plus building the 3rd large peak in a year is maybe too much? Most likely Vuelta scenario I see is him doing Giro+Vuelta double at some point.
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When I brought it up I was referring to going for stage wins instead of overall. Plus Almeida and Ayuso would probably get very upset if Pog just came and usurped their leadership.
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Stage wins to build up to the Autumn classics and they’re less demanding than GC.
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I don't think riding the second consecutive GT (after peaking in the spring already) is the way to peak for autumn classics. Pogacar's won 14 GT stages - not too shabby for a 24 yo guy. He'll likely do the same as in previous years - good, long rest after the Tour and short autumn peak afterwards.
You have X number of matches that you can burn that are of a certain length. Longer attacks take two matches. It's simply a matter of knowing how many matches you have in your stash. There are very good books on cycling training where this is explained.
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I don't think that would make too much of a difference to be honest. Vingegård this year also did a bit of a peak in April for the Tour of the Basque country so as long as Pogačar doesn't injury himself in the months prior to the Tour, he should be able to reach it in top condition regardless of doing the classics or not.
The problem is that even his top condition may not be enough to beat Vingegård given the absurd level that he showed in a few stages so what I think that would make more sense would be for UAE to bring Juan Ayuso who could be a strong enough co-leader to fight for the overall win unlike Adam Yates in order to try repetitive attacks on Vingegård but will see how much Ayuso improves when compared to last year's Vuelta.
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Correct, but this, however, is also not in any short term plans. He gave an interview in Marca like three days ago and says he wants to do it at some point, but there isn't any next year or year after that thoughts going on currently. Unless Ayuso magically gains a gazillion watts, which is doubtful given he's been living like a pro since 16, and becomes the clear #1, the Tour will be the main target as it best goes hand in hand with the classics.
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Yup. His monster classics campaign this year confirmed further that classics spring + Tour + going for Lombardy is his optimal program.
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If he manages to win four more races he hits 20 wins. When was the last time a non-pure sprinter won 20 races in a year? Gilbert maybe? It would be even rare for a sprinter (Sagan, Cav, Greipel and Kristoff etc)
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The last time was two weeks ago or so, when Miguel Angel Lopez won in El Salvador.
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Ah, Superman would've crushed those weaklings on Tourmalet and Loze. Too bad the real #1 couldn't compete there so the Tour victory is asterisked.
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