The GOATPogacar is already better than both.
Hes not greater than Merckx but certaintly theres never been a person on a bike of human existence that are better than Pogacar.
The GOATPogacar is already better than both.
Hes not greater than Merckx but certaintly theres never been a person on a bike of human existence that are better than Pogacar.
If you dont understand the difference betwen greatest or best thats on you.Pogacar is already better than both.
Hes not greater than Merckx but certaintly theres never been a person on a bike of human existence that are better than Pogacar.
Indurain was faster on climbs and in ITTs, plus he was a better descender.If you think anyone been better than Pogacar in human history feel free to drop names we are all listening
That Pog is not good at descending is such a myth. He is not Savoldelli but he is not Frank Schleck either.Indurain was faster on climbs and in ITTs, plus he was a better descender.
And Indurain was better than that.That Pog is not good at descending is such a myth. He is not Savoldelli but he is not Frank Schleck either.
He is definitely above average and quite good. He has won some big races attacking downhill and increasing the gap to later win the race.
I was going at those who say he is a "bad" descender.And Indurain was better than that.
On which climb has Pogi ever gone up quicker than what Indurain did on Hautacam?Not sure if your trolling.
But descender agree.
He is not bad, but average downhill.That Pog is not good at descending is such a myth. He is not Savoldelli but he is not Frank Schleck either.
He is definitely above average and quite good. He has won some big races attacking downhill and increasing the gap to later win the race.
So Pantani is the GOAT? I still think Pog needs 5 GT's (at least 2 more Tours, a Giro and a Vuelta) to surpass Indurain in the category of all time greats.On which climb has Pogi ever gone up quicker than what Indurain did on Hautacam?
I think Merckx is the GOAT of cycling. However, that wasn't the question raised.So Pantani is the GOAT? I still think Pog needs 5 GT's (at least 2 more Tours, a Giro and a Vuelta) to surpass Indurain in the category of all time greats.
No, above average which means he is good. An important factor in being the overall GOAT.He is not bad, but average downhill.
No, above average which means he is good. An important factor in being the overall GOAT.
I respectfully disagree. Mainly duo to evolution as its pointless to discuss it without. Also theres the other part with Indurain i know you know so even more pointless to say Indurain.I think Merckx is the GOAT of cycling. However, that wasn't the question raised.
If you just want to discuss who the strongest is of all time (and don't only consider climbs), I think Indurain is the benchmark.
No your right on those two. But he is the best everHe is not the most successful ever. He is not the fastest ever.
Less than that can do. He is still pretty great.
If you want to discuss doping, we have a different sub-forum for that.
How is he better than Indurain? He is slower than Indurain was uphill, downhill and on the flat.But he is the best ever. Thanks for comfirming.
Merckx GOATI respectfully disagree. Mainly duo to evolution as its pointless to discuss it without. Also theres the other part with Indurain i know you know so even more pointless to say Indurain.
Pogacar i think is beyond a doubt the best cyclist of our history - again evolution im not trying to disrespect any legends, but put em in a race vs pogacar today without doping or any other thing the answer is kinda self-explanatory.
Merckx is the goat tho without a doubt indeed.
I think in the world of cycling theres very little doubt that Pogacar is the best cyclist ever mounting a bike.Merckx GOAT
Pog GOAT
The man said it himself, thats all you need to know.
Cause your trying to bait me to talk about stuff on indurains which is irrelevant here. If you dont agree thats totally fine.How is he better than Indurain? He is slower than Indurain was uphill, downhill and on the flat.
Thats cool, but I will take Merckx word for it to Pog up there as well. His opinion matters the most.I think in the world of cycling theres very little doubt that Pogacar is the best cyclist ever mounting a bike.
Again not the greatest thats a completely different thing.
If you don't want to compare Pogi against everyone else, don't claim he was the best of ALL time.Cause your trying to bait me to talk about stuff on indurains which is irrelevant here. If you dont agree thats totally fine.
Indurain was a beast one of the greatest legends cycling has.
Goats never need to proclaim themself beeing the goat so Merckx would never say himself. Merckx isnt Lebron eitherThats cool, but I will take Merckx word for it to Pog up there as well. His opinion matters the most.