Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

I doubt that they will work tbh.

It will not work but a harder pace there will tire MVP more than Pogacar, even if it is a tiny bit.

 

[Cycling111]

They say Pogacar is a bad downhiller; he didthe third-fastest time on the descent in Galibier after Pidcock's 2022 descent and Ayuso's, both of whom were great downhillers, and best than Roglic or Landa who are good. If they say Pogacar has a hard time winning San Remo because he doesn't do a better descent than Pidcock and VDP, imagine Remco, who does a worse descent than all the Tour chasers who overtook him on the Galibier.

Pogacar isn't VDP and Pidcock on the descent, but last year, compared to Remco, he looked like Savoldelli descending the Galibier
I think Remco has a much difficult than Pogacar to win San Remo. Besides, I still think he's a worse sprinter.

Pogacar's problem in Sanremo is that VDP, or Philippsen in 2023, are very fast.
That problem isn't solved by Remo, who is slower than Pogacar.

 

[Salvarani]

What Pog needs is better positioning going into Cipressa and his last lead-out guy to be a little bit stronger than this year. So he can use the draft a little bit longer until he attacks. Thats the best chance he has.

 

[Peyroteo94]

What Pog needs is better positioning going into Cipressa and his last lead-out guy to be a little bit stronger than this year. So he can use the draft a little bit longer until he attacks. Thats the best chance he has.

I agree with you, that is obvious.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Exactly.

Cant wait to see how that one Soudal guy will help UAE pace though. He will make a lot of different I am sure. Lol.

Not right before Cipressa but in Capos.

 

[Red Rick]

Poggio descent isn't exactly super technical, nor is there no benefit to being aero.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Poggio descent isn't exactly super technical, nor is there no benefit to being aero.

It is technical and roads are narrow

 

[scribers]

Soudal helping UAE, nah

The only hope for QS helping UAE in screwing up the trains of Alpecin, Lidl, and Ineos at the cioressa base bottleneck

 

[Cycling111]

Poggio descent isn't exactly super technical, nor is there no benefit to being aero.

Literally every rider has insisted that it's an important point due to the difficulty of the descent.
Riders like Mohoric have won on that descent.

 

[scribers]

If remco and pogi get away together on the cipressa that’s a total advantage to pogi vs being away with mvp.

If mvp is in the mix then the best pogi can hope for is false drafting for mvp behind remco.

 

[Red Rick]

Literally every rider has insisted that it's an important point due to the difficulty of the descent.
Riders like Mohoric have won on that descent.

Mohoric won because Pogacar dropped a gap, motodrafting and G2 dynamics did the rest. Could've happened on a flat section.

 

[scribers]

I'm saying in Capos specially.

UAE was driving hard there.

Honestly UAE has to bone up and take the left side of the road at the bottleneck. Politt, vermeersch, Novak and any other animal they can get in there

 

[Peyroteo94]

Mohoric won because Pogacar dropped a gap, motodrafting and G2 dynamics did the rest. Could've happened on a flat section.

Matej Mohoric's interesting story on Pogacar: "Don’t risk your life and your Tour de France by following me down the Poggio descent"

Matej Mohoric is a daredevil descender and in 2022, he won Milano-Sanremo with a downhill attack that very few could even dream of executing. On that day, the Bahrain - Victorious rode a race to perfe...

cyclinguptodate.com

 

[Peyroteo94]

UAE was driving hard there.

Honestly UAE has to bone up and take the left side of the road at the bottleneck. Politt, vermeersch, Novak and any other animal they can get in there

He can risk a nasty crash before Cipressa but it is very important to be in the first 20 positions.

 

[BigCoward]

God this is tedious.

 

[Bolder]

They say Pogacar is a bad downhiller; he didthe third-fastest time on the descent in Galibier after Pidcock's 2022 descent and Ayuso's, both of whom were great downhillers, and best than Roglic or Landa who are good. If they say Pogacar has a hard time winning San Remo because he doesn't do a better descent than Pidcock and VDP, imagine Remco, who does a worse descent than all the Tour chasers who overtook him on the Galibier.

Pogacar isn't VDP and Pidcock on the descent, but last year, compared to Remco, he looked like Savoldelli descending the Galibier
I think Remco has a much difficult than Pogacar to win San Remo. Besides, I still think he's a worse sprinter.

Pogacar's problem in Sanremo is that VDP, or Philippsen in 2023, are very fast.
That problem isn't solved by Remo, who is slower than Pogacar.

He would have won easily this year if MvdP hadn't been in top shape. If Pog is prepared and MvdP is a tiny bit off or even out of position, he'll win with the same tactics.

 

[Peyroteo94]

He would have won easily this year if MvdP hadn't been in top shape. If Pog is prepared and MvdP is a tiny bit off or even out of position, he'll win with the same tactics.

But he can't hope MVP will be worse, he can't control that.

 

[Peyroteo94]

The great one talking about Pogi's schedule. Says he might not be at his peak in the Tour. I think he will be but not focusing more on climbing can hurt him.

Cycling, Contador criticizes Pogacar: "Too many races: he risks not reaching the top at the Tour"

Meanwhile Evenepoel explodes in his homeland against a journalist, who had attacked his wife and his family: "They are honest people, who work and do not need financial help"

sport.quotidiano.net

 

[Salvarani]

He would have won easily this year if MvdP hadn't been in top shape. If Pog is prepared and MvdP is a tiny bit off or even out of position, he'll win with the same tactics.

Pog and UAE will have learned from this attempt, that it could be possible. It was close. They will try again.

 

[snipeheem]

The great one talking about Pogi's schedule. Says he might not be at his peak in the Tour. I think he will be but not focusing more on climbing can hurt him.

Cycling, Contador criticizes Pogacar: "Too many races: he risks not reaching the top at the Tour"

Meanwhile Evenepoel explodes in his homeland against a journalist, who had attacked his wife and his family: "They are honest people, who work and do not need financial help"

sport.quotidiano.net

1 week ago you were telling me he is gonna be alright, that spring campaign will not hurt him during the Tour.

 

[Cycling111]

Contador admires Pogacar, but last year he said he wouldn't win the Tour because no one, since 1998, had won it after winning the Giro.

 

[Peyroteo94]

1 week ago you were telling me he is gonna be alright, that spring campaign will not hurt him during the Tour.

Read again. I told he will be in peak shape, I'm just questioning if the level he reached last year (in the long mountains), can be explained by working more time focused on climbing.
I think he will start his altitude training camp in 14th of May so it is already a better preparation than 2023.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pog and UAE will have learned from this attempt, that it could be possible. It was close. They will try again.

This is true however it is a shame they took so much time to understand what was the best tactic in MSR. So many wasted opportunities on the Poggio.

 

[Red Rick]

Contador admires Pogacar, but last year he said he wouldn't win the Tour because no one, since 1998, had won it after winning the Giro.

This is pretty much just Contador applying the logic and his own experiences to 2025 cycling without reevaluating based on what's been happening recently. To me, it's more of a confession on Contador's part that he used to race too hard in the spring.

Before the Itzulia crash, I think a majority of people were pretty sceptical Pogacar could do the double, and there was some talk about whether or not he had given up on winning the Tour altogether.

If we're gonna laugh at Contador for bad takes, this isn't close to his worst one, and we can just go back to laughing at his "Van der Poel for Giro podium" prediction.

 

[Peyroteo94]

This is pretty much just Contador applying the logic and his own experiences to 2025 cycling without reevaluating based on what's been happening recently. To me, it's more of a confession on Contador's part that he used to race too hard in the spring.

Before the Itzulia crash, I think a majority of people were pretty sceptical Pogacar could do the double, and there was some talk about whether or not he had given up on winning the Tour altogether.

If we're gonna laugh at Contador for bad takes, this isn't close to his worst one, and we can just go back to laughing at his "Van der Poel for Giro podium" prediction.

Jesus Christ... there is a strong case about MVP being one of the most overrated cyclists in the world. I know this is strange since he is the best cobbled classics rider in the world, probably on his way to surpass Boonen as the best ever but he is so overrated on climbs. He can't have a chance in climbs over 4 minutes (with more than 7% average gradient) but people still think he can win LBL or other hilly classics.