Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Peyroteo94]

What race is this?

Tadej Pogačar, Primož Roglič, Jonas Vingegaard and Isaac del Toro set for new four-rider race in Andorra in October

Details of two-part event were unveiled during stage 7 start of Vuelta a España at Andorra la Vella

www.cyclingnews.com

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Roglic is not going to Rwanda just to help Pogacar. Why going to Africa if you are just preparing GdL?

Roglic will want a free role probably. It could get interesting if Roglic decides for an early move and Pogacar decides to chase him down (if other teams can't).

 

[Peyroteo94]

Roglic will want a free role probably. It could get interesting if Roglic decides for an early move and Pogacar decides to chase him down (if other teams can't).

For sure Pogacar will attack even if he has to chase Roglic.

 

[rafa92]

just read some statements from ayuso and gotta say mou was 100% right all this time

 

[Peyroteo94]

just read some statements from ayuso and gotta say mou was 100% right all this time

Grande Mou. Exposing both Ayuso and the bald fraud!

 

[Shortcut]

Ayuso just made Pogacar career longer. He will probably perfect motivation for Tadej not allowing him to win.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Ayuso just made Pogacar career longer. He will probably perfect motivation for Tadej not allowing him to win.

Pogacar doesn't care about him to be honest. He is irrelevant.

 

[Peyroteo94]

So now I'm curious to know what will be UAE team next year in the Tour.
Almeida will race the Giro for sure. I believe he will race the Tour too, helping Teddy to win his 5th Tour.
Del Toro is probably only racing one GT. I don't know if he will target the TdF or if he will lead the team in the Vuelta.

 

[red_flanders]

So now I'm curious to know what will be UAE team next year in the Tour.
Almeida will race the Giro for sure. I believe he will race the Tour too, helping Teddy to win his 5th Tour.
Del Toro is probably only racing one GT. I don't know if he will target the TdF or if he will lead the team in the Vuelta.

Why are you sure Almeida will do the Giro? I have no clue, not doubting what you say at all, just looking for the rationale.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Why are you sure Almeida will do the Giro? I have no clue, not doubting what you say at all, just looking for the rationale.

Because he wants to lead a GT. I believe Pogacar will target the Tour again (similar schedule to 2025). Almeida did Tour-Vuelta 2x in a row so it's logical he will race the Giro next year.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Ayuso just made Pogacar career longer. He will probably perfect motivation for Tadej not allowing him to win.

Do you think that Politt (ordered by Teddy) is just adding Ayuso on the top of their famous black list?

 

[Cycling111]

Do you think that Politt (ordered by Teddy) is just adding Ayuso on the top of their famous black list?

Honestly, I think for Pogacar Ayuso is pretty indifferent. I think Ayuso cares more about Pogacar, for no reason, because, as I said, for Pogacar Ayuso, he's not a threat. Indifference would be the word.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Honestly, I think for Pogacar Ayuso is pretty indifferent. I think Ayuso cares more about Pogacar, for no reason, because, as I said, for Pogacar Ayuso, he's not a threat. Indifference would be the word.

Jorgenson is on top of the blacklist even though he's not a big threat to Pogacar.

 

[Cycling111]

Jorgenson is on top of the blacklist even though he's not a big threat to Pogacar.

Jorgenson made some very unpleasant comments about Pogacar last year. That's the reason, not to see him as a threat.

 

[Monsi]

So now I'm curious to know what will be UAE team next year in the Tour.
Almeida will race the Giro for sure. I believe he will race the Tour too, helping Teddy to win his 5th Tour.
Del Toro is probably only racing one GT. I don't know if he will target the TdF or if he will lead the team in the Vuelta.

I think Pogacar, Almeida, Narvaez, Wellens, and Politt will be kept 100%. Unless Del Toro wants to go for the Vuelta, I would love to see him in the Tour team. I think Vine would be a good replacement for Soler (provided he goes all out to support Pogi). Someone who is good on the flat and the climbs. For the last one, I know he was only going for himself in this year's Giro, but McNulty would be really nice as a domestique. Would be good for the TTT as well.

If no Del Toro, then I guess Yates is just fine, as long as he does not ride the Giro. Emphasis on that one.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I think Pogacar, Almeida, Narvaez, Wellens, and Politt will be kept 100%. Unless Del Toro wants to go for the Vuelta, I would love to see him in the Tour team. I think Vine would be a good replacement for Soler (provided he goes all out to support Pogi). Someone who is good on the flat and the climbs. For the last one, I know he was only going for himself in this year's Giro, but McNulty would be really nice as a domestique. Would be good for the TTT as well.

Pogacar needs three strong mountain doms at the Tour. This year he had two but one of them crashed, the other wasn't in top form and the team didn't look that strong in the mountains.

 

[Monsi]

Pogacar needs three strong mountain doms at the Tour. This year he had two but one of them crashed, the other wasn't in top form and the team didn't look that strong in the mountains.

Almeida, Narvaez, Del Toro would already be nice. If Vine and McNulty are all in (which I think is no problem as long as it's for Pogacar), that's an insane mountain train.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Almeida, Narvaez, Del Toro would already be nice. If Vine and McNulty are all in (which I think is no problem as long as its for Pogacar), that's an insane mountain train.

Narvaez is good for hills and can prepare an early attack (like Hautacam). It's good to have him at the Tour but I would add another climber (besides Almeida and Del Toro) to the team.

 

[Monsi]

Narvaez is good for hills and can prepare an early attack (like Hautacam). It's good to have him at the Tour but I would add another climber (besides Almeida and Del Toro) to the team.

You don't think Vine and McNulty can provide that role?

 

[Krzysztof_O]

You don't think Vine and McNulty can provide that role?

Yes i.e. Almeida + Del Toro + Vine should be enough for the mountains.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I think Pogacar, Almeida, Narvaez, Wellens, and Politt will be kept 100%. Unless Del Toro wants to go for the Vuelta, I would love to see him in the Tour team. I think Vine would be a good replacement for Soler (provided he goes all out to support Pogi). Someone who is good on the flat and the climbs. For the last one, I know he was only going for himself in this year's Giro, but McNulty would be really nice as a domestique. Would be good for the TTT as well.

If no Del Toro, then I guess Yates is just fine, as long as he does not ride the Giro. Emphasis on that one.

Vine is always crashing. No way. Soler is from Barcelona, of course he will race the Tour.
For me McNulty could a great dom but he doesn't like to suffer for others.

My team:
Pogacar
Almeida
Soler
Narvaez
Politt
Wellens

Now 2 spots where I would like to see strong climbers.
Del Toro (I think he will target the Vuelta)
Sivakov
Yates
Vine
McNulty

Since we have a TTT, it would make sense to bring Vine and McNulty (if Del Toro goes to the Vuelta). They are also two very good powerhorses for climbs and rolling terrain. But they are not willing to die for Pogacar.

 

[Peyroteo94]

Pogacar needs three strong mountain doms at the Tour. This year he had two but one of them crashed, the other wasn't in top form and the team didn't look that strong in the mountains.

He had 3. Sivakov, Yates and Almeida. Two underperformed significantly, Almeida crashed.

 

[Monsi]

Vine is always crashing. No way. Soler is from Barcelona, of course he will race the Tour.
For me McNulty could a great dom but he doesn't like to suffer for others.

My team:
Pogacar
Almeida
Soler
Narvaez
Politt
Wellens

Now 2 spots where I would like to see strong climbers.
Del Toro (I think he will target the Vuelta)
Sivakov
Yates
Vine
McNulty

Since we have a TTT, it would make sense to bring Vine and McNulty (if Del Toro goes to the Vuelta). They are also two very good powerhorses for climbs and rolling terrain. But they are not willing to die for Pogacar.

I would've been good with Soler but he was underwhelming in this year's Tour. Sivakov is just too much of a question mark and Yates seems on a downward trend. Unless UAE wants to send the same 2025 team next year, I just think the best options are Vine and McNulty. If Del Toro doesn't target the Vuelta, he should definitely be in the Tour team.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

He is peaking for this race. He is fresh (few race days) and he has been training 2 months for this race.

Yeah, Remco should be strong at the WC. He has good engine for 250+ km races and is one of the best on short climbs. I wouldn't underestimate Carapaz: he's also preparing at Colombian altitude especially for this race and him being on the podium wouldn't surprise me at all.

 

[Peyroteo94]

I would've been good with Soler but he was underwhelming in this year's Tour. Sivakov is just too much of a question mark and Yates seems on a downward trend. Unless UAE wants to send the same 2025 team next year, I just think the best options are Vine and McNulty. If Del Toro doesn't target the Vuelta, he should definitely be in the Tour team.

Del Toro and Almeida would be the perfect scenario for Pogacar. A strong tempo before a strong leadout from Del Toro.