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Krzysztof_O said:
So will Isaac obey Lord Pogi or will he follow Ayuso's footsteps? It's good to be loyal to the Godfather, who will be grateful and will allow the youngster to win even more 1.1 races next year.
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Pogi will be so greatful and generous, that he would give him chances in an important races for him like Itzulia, Romandie and Suisse.
 
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CatchyH said:
Delusional Del Toro fans already talking about how Pog should repay Del Toro's help last week by gifting him Lombardia. The most he'll get is Tre Valli Varesine if he hangs on.
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Pogacar will never give away a GT or Monument.
A situation like Kuss's is crazy and should never have happened.

By Del Toro fans, do you mean the Mexicans on social media?
Some were saying before the WC that he was as much of a favorite as Pogacar, or that if he wins one more race than him, it will be a better season. They're people who haven't watched cycling, and they count any victory the same as a Monument or a Tour de France stage.

As if Magnier wins five more stages in Guantxi and ties Pogacar for the number of victories. It's not the same, and many don't know most of the races except the Tour, and they're giving them the same importance. They see Lombardia as the race where they'll meet, and it has to be a given....
Patience. The Mexican fans are very enthusiastic. If Del Toro goes to the Tour next year, they'll say he has to go as co-leader.

By the way, Pogacar had won Montreal twice. Did he win Varesine? He shouldn't give it away.
Besides, Pogacar helped Del Toro try to win silver more than the other way around 😅.
 
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Cycling111 said:
Pogacar will never give away a GT or Monument.
A situation like Kuss's is crazy and should never have happened.

By Del Toro fans, do you mean the Mexicans on social media?
Some were saying before the WC that he was as much of a favorite as Pogacar, or that if he wins one more race than him, it will be a better season. They're people who haven't watched cycling, and they count any victory the same as a Monument or a Tour de France stage.

As if Magnier wins five more stages in Guantxi and ties Pogacar for the number of victories. It's not the same, and many don't know most of the races except the Tour, and they're giving them the same importance. They see Lombardia as the race where they'll meet, and it has to be a given....
Patience. The Mexican fans are very enthusiastic. If Del Toro goes to the Tour next year, they'll say he has to go as co-leader.

By the way, Pogacar had won Montreal twice. Did he win Varesine? He shouldn't give it away.
Besides, Pogacar helped Del Toro try to win silver more than the other way around 😅.
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They can say whatever they want, Pogacar will smoke everyone in the 2026 TdF (including Del Toro).
 
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Lequack said:
Unless Del Toro does a Mcnulty at Montreal, and it's only him and Pog at the end.
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Pogacar is looking to make history in this Lombardy. He shouldn't give it to Del Toro, under any circumstances. Not even if it's his tenth. There are races that aren't for give: GT, Monuments, World Championships, and even minor races that have a certain prestige and haven't been won.
 
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Cycling111 said:
Pogacar is looking to make history in this Lombardy. He shouldn't give it to Del Toro, under any circumstances. Not even if it's his tenth. There are races that aren't for give: GT, Monuments, World Championships, and even minor races that have a certain prestige and haven't been won.
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I hope Remco is good enough to stay with Del Toro. This will prevent any thought of monument gifts
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
I hope Remco is good enough to stay with Del Toro. This will prevent any thought of monument gifts
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In any case, there isn't a single race that Pogacar has won thanks to Del Toro, and Del Toro has won enough races to need a gift.
Pogacar was put to work in the Basque Country for McNulty after winning a Tour de France, and now it seems like everyone has to be given races to accept being subordinate to a better rider.

I would understand why Majka would be given a race like Varesine, or someone like Narvaez, who hasn't won that much and has sacrificed a lot. But I don't understand why so many people on social media are assuming he has to be given Varesine to Del Torp when Del Toro won Emilia today.
 
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Cycling111 said:
In any case, there isn't a single race that Pogacar has won thanks to Del Toro, and Del Toro has won enough races to need a gift.
Pogacar was put to work in the Basque Country for McNulty after winning a Tour de France, and now it seems like everyone has to be given races to accept being subordinate to a better rider.

I would understand why Majka would be given a race like Varesine, or someone like Narvaez, who hasn't won that much and has sacrificed a lot. But I don't understand why so many people on social media are assuming he has to be given Varesine to Del Torp when Del Toro won Emilia today.
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I still think Pogacar will not gift anything until the end of the season.
 
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Hopefully putting the likes of arrogant Skjelmose and delusional Ayuso in their place and winning the race convincly again. Don't think Jonas will be a factor, so once again the only rider I really fear will be Remco, and this course with plenty of flat roads suits him better than Kigali
 
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Valv.Piti said:
Hopefully putting the likes of arrogant Skjelmose and delusional Ayuso in their place and winning the race convincly again. Don't think Jonas will be a factor, so once again the only rider I really fear will be Remco, and this course with plenty of flat roads suits him better than Kigali
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But Kigali didn't have a long climb like they will have tomorrow, and 3 times.
 
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Who even thinks about leaving wins on monuments? That’s just absurd. For Pogačar, Del Toro’s arrival comes at a perfect time,it means he doesn’t have to go to races that don’t really suit him at this stage of his career.
Del Toro will be a problem for Jonas and Ayuso in week-long races, for Remco in one-day races (like Amstel, San Sebastián, maybe even Flèche Wallonne and Strade Bianche), and on Grand Tours he can challenge Jonas again together with Almeida.

Almeida has an issue with Jonas because the latter is simply too explosive for him, but Del Toro doesn’t have that problem,if he can just stick to Jonas’s wheel, Almeida can rejoin.
And if they send Del Toro to the Tour with Pogačar, Tadej will have an even easier path to stage wins than if they give him Yates again like this year. So overall, Del Toro is an excellent option for Pogačar.
 
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CatchyH said:
Delusional Del Toro fans already talking about how Pog should repay Del Toro's help last week by gifting him Lombardia. The most he'll get is Tre Valli Varesine if he hangs on.
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Unfortunately the Bull will crack there exactly 300 meters from the line...
 
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Peyroteo94 said:
But Kigali didn't have a long climb like they will have tomorrow, and 3 times.
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Mount Kigali was 6km at 6.8% while ECC is 7km at 7.2%. Not exactly light years apart. And while they climb it 3 times, chances are the attacks will only happen on the last climb. Pog is not going to go solo on the first ascent with 2 more to go and flat roads in between.

Valv.Piti said:
Hopefully putting the likes of arrogant Skjelmose and delusional Ayuso in their place and winning the race convincly again. Don't think Jonas will be a factor, so once again the only rider I really fear will be Remco, and this course with plenty of flat roads suits him better than Kigali
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I didn't know you were such a Pogi fan. Why "fear" Evenepoel?
 
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Krzysztof_O said:
I perceive Del Toro more as a one-day racing thread (he still has to improve his endurance though). I'm not convinced about his GT greatness yet (it could end up similarly to Ayuso).
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Ayuso never did something remotely close to what Del Toro did in the Giro. He was the best rider in the Giro and lost due to a tactical mistake.
I don't believe for a second he (or Carapaz) was weaker than Yates in Finestre.
 
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