Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

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I'm not sure I agree with this take. There are a couple of scenarios I can see potentially happening:
1. Remco is the only rider who can follow Pogacar on the final climb. Remco being there makes it even less likely that the chasing group catch them, as Remco will definitely work. However, Remco has a chance to beat Pogacar in the sprint, so this is a worse scenario for Pog compared to 2023 and 2025.
2. Remco is dropped on the final climb. However, Remco's presence in a chasing group makes it more likely that Pogacar is caught, as he is probably the best rider out there for a 15km chase on flat roads.
3. Remco is dropped earlier or doesn't feature in the finale. This neither helps nor hinders Pogacar.

I still think Pogacar is the favourite, I just disagree that Remco's presence helps him. I think it makes things slightly harder.

The second scenario is the worst for Pogacar and the most likely of those three. Remco (and MVP) are dropped by Pogacar on Kwaremont but are close enough (i.e. not more than 15 seconds back) and Remco brings back MVP, who smokes Pogacar in the sprint. MVP alone (and guys behind) won't be able to catch Pog but with Remco's help the duo might just make it. For Pogacar it would be better if Remco is ahead (or enough behind) MVP on the last climb.
 
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The second scenario is the worst for Pogacar and the most likely of those three. Remco (and MVP) are dropped by Pogacar on Kwaremont but are close enough (i.e. not more than 15 seconds back) and Remco brings back MVP, who smokes Pogacar in the sprint. MVP alone (and guys behind) won't be able to catch Pog but with Remco's help the duo might just make it.
But Remco will also lose, he knows he cannot win a sprint against those guys.
 
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Wout, Mads and everyone else will be too far behind Pogacar after all those hills. I think only Van der Poel and Evenepoel have a chance to be close enough to impact Pogacar's race.
How much I would like to see Mathieu and Remco work together, I cannot se such scenario unfold.
 
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The second scenario is the worst for Pogacar and the most likely of those three. Remco (and MVP) are dropped by Pogacar on Kwaremont but are close enough (i.e. not more than 15 seconds back) and Remco brings back MVP, who smokes Pogacar in the sprint. MVP alone (and guys behind) won't be able to catch Pog but with Remco's help the duo might just make it. For Pogacar it would be better if Remco is ahead (or enough behind) MVP on the last climb.
Last year the gap right after 3rd Oude Kwaremont was less than 10s. Right after Paterberg it was 15s more, almost 25s. Even if you're close after Kwaremont and cooked, the gap can increase by a lot
 
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The second scenario is the worst for Pogacar and the most likely of those three. Remco (and MVP) are dropped by Pogacar on Kwaremont but are close enough (i.e. not more than 15 seconds back) and Remco brings back MVP, who smokes Pogacar in the sprint. MVP alone (and guys behind) won't be able to catch Pog but with Remco's help the duo might just make it. For Pogacar it would be better if Remco is ahead (or enough behind) MVP on the last climb.
Last year, we were also wondering if Pogacar could make it against a strong chasing group (Mads, WVA, MVP, Stuyven) in a headwind. Guess what, Pogacar won the race with a gap of 1' (after having a 24" gap at the top of Paterberg).
A scenario like AGR happens once in a while with Pogacar and probably because he underperformed for whatever reason (lack of freshness probably).
The worst scenario for him is Remco getting away between those hills and no one works with him. I don't think it's likely btw.
 
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@AmRacer

Why not? They both are in fight for victory. It's MVP's great chance to win while Remco at least will have a chance to sprint for victory.

@vappa

25 seconds after Paterberg would probably be too much but if they limit it to 15 seconds then who knows.

@canina82

Last year Pogacar was easily the strongest in the finale plus the 2nd group syndrome also kicked in at some point. MVP and Evenepoel cooperating well to the very end could be more dangerous than a larger group in this case.
 
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@AmRacer

Why not? They both are in fight for victory. It's MVP's great chance to win while Remco at least will have a chance to sprint for victory.

@vappa

25 seconds after Paterberg would probably be too much but if they limit it to 15 seconds then who knows.

@canina82

Last year Pogacar was easily the strongest in the finale plus the 2nd group syndrome also kicked in at some point. MVP and Evenepoel cooperating well to the very end could be more dangerous than a larger group in this case.
If they're cooked more than Pogacar, which is almost a certainty, I find it more likely they'll lose time towards the finish especially if Pogi starts gaining time, they'll just focus on the sprint for 2nd, like last year
 
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View: https://x.com/sporza_koers/status/2039630014086349064?s=46

Look what the locals are doing… kopenberg is now in danger of being closed. I am not having this bs
It's only closed for tourists and only today. The cobbles will be cleaned later today.

The pro riders themselves are allowed to ride up the hill during their recons today, though most of them are having trouble on the slippery cobbles and have to walk anyway.
 
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@AmRacer

Why not? They both are in fight for victory. It's MVP's great chance to win while Remco at least will have a chance to sprint for victory.

@vappa

25 seconds after Paterberg would probably be too much but if they limit it to 15 seconds then who knows.

@canina82

Last year Pogacar was easily the strongest in the finale plus the 2nd group syndrome also kicked in at some point. MVP and Evenepoel cooperating well to the very end could be more dangerous than a larger group in this case.
That's not true. They were cooperating relatively well (at least until the last 4 km, where the gap was at 51"), they were just dead, specially MVP.

View: https://youtu.be/sKxe3cLz9_Y?is=P4JY4vtzY32k2PBw

So if MVP gets dropped, this means he is toasted and probably won't be able to bring Pogacar back with Remco. Nevertheless, I think if there is any group able to bring Pogacar back, is a duo between Remco and MVP. I just don't think it will happen.
 
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That's not true. They were cooperating relatively well (at least until the last 4 km, where the gap was at 51"), they were just dead, specially MVP.

View: https://youtu.be/sKxe3cLz9_Y?is=P4JY4vtzY32k2PBw

So if MVP gets dropped, this means he is toasted and probably won't be able to bring Pogacar back with Remco. Nevertheless, I think if there is any group able to bring Pogacar back, is a duo between Remco and MVP. I just don't think it will happen.
“So if MVP gets dropped, this means he is toasted and probably won't be able to bring Pogacar back with Remco”
I don’t think thats necessarily true, Mvdps tactic last year was not to give pogacar a meter at any point in the race which was a mistake imo. In 2023 he rode a perfect race doing his own pace which made him finish ahead of the rest. When a guy is a level above you in a certain race like pog is, you should never make the mistake of following his every acceleration otherwise you will pop at some point & risk even podium. Vingegaard on hautacam is a perfect example. If Mvdp rides like 2023 he will have a chance.
 
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“So if MVP gets dropped, this means he is toasted and probably won't be able to bring Pogacar back with Remco”
I don’t think thats necessarily true, Mvdps tactic last year was not to give pogacar a meter at any point in the race which was a mistake imo. In 2023 he rode a perfect race with doing his own pace which made him finish ahead of the rest. When a guy is a level above you in a certain race like pog is, you should never make the mistake of following his every acceleration otherwise you will pop at some point & risk even podium. Vingegaard on hautacam is a perfect example. If Mvdp rides like 2023 he will have a chance.
The question is: Is 2023 Pogacar close to 2026 Pogacar? I don't think so (I also think MVP is better now but Pogacar improved more IMO).
 
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The question is: Is 2023 Pogacar close to 2026 Pogacar? I don't think so (I also think MVP is better now but Pogacar improved more IMO).
I didn’t compare pogs level throughout the years, I was talking about how Mvdp should race to stand a chance of winning the race. Irrespective of pogs improved level vdp should do his own race & hope remco and wva can help in the chase
 
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I didn’t compare pogs level throughout the years, I was talking about how Mvdp should race to stand a chance of winning the race. Irrespective of pogs improved level vdp should do his own race & hope remco and wva can help in the chase
That's a bold strategy and I don't think MVP will do it.
 
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How much I would like to see Mathieu and Remco work together, I cannot se such scenario unfold.
I see all the best working together, they all know about the importance of a decent sized separation. Wout, put on a brave face, but after he finished he probably replayed places were he didn't push as hard as he should have. Remco has to walk the walk after multiple days of complaining about Vingegaard racing conservative and not working for any separation from long distance. With such a quality field and semi dangerous conditions, great racers are not going to have a big fat pack, curb to curb, teams will thin things out as fast as possible, all the best riders have to race from the front, Wout and Remco showing that they can get a gap really quickly.
 

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Hopefully Pogi puts the Swiss races on his palmares because Tour de Romandie might die just like the Tour de Suisse
Even if he doesn't win, who cares?
 

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