Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[SHAD0W93]

Ofc the crash in msr affected his performance in both msr & flanders.

Not only did Pogacar crash in MSR but he finished the race on a broken bike to win. Some can only wish to be that “fortunate”.




Otherwise I think he’s better than last year for the classics but his GC racing is TBD. 2024 you could see a clear improvement before the Giro, 2025 you could see a slight improvement, and you can continue to see the improvement. TDR and TDS will be a nice benchmark.

 

[canina82]

Not only did Pogacar crash in MSR but he finished the race on a broken bike to win. Some can only wish to be that “fortunate”.




Otherwise I think he’s better than last year for the classics but his GC racing is TBD. 2024 you could see a clear improvement before the Giro, 2025 you could see a slight improvement, and you can continue to see the improvement. TDR and TDS will be a nice benchmark.

It won't due to lack of competition. We can't know where Pogacar or Vingegaard stand if we don't see them racing against each other. Now, we probably need to add Seixas to the party since I believe he is very close to Jonas right now.

 

[canina82]

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I am surprised that Johansen is not included.

 

[canina82]

I am surprised that Johansen is not included.

Positioning with Molano and Oliveira.

 

[Shortcut]

I think Pogi looks much better in flat sections and the same as last year on small climbs. He sure added some weight. He was racing so much more in a wind at RVV (i was totally confused) he was pulling 20 riders even though Vermeeesh was there. After that he was pulling MvDP almost all the time and finished him in last 13 km. At the Pateberg it was still only 15sec (Kwaremont 6 sec). He also pulled Pidcock in last 5 km and still outsprinted him. I am feeling super confident for P-R but less for LBL, at least i don't believe it will be so easy as last year.

 

[canina82]

I think Pogi looks much better in flat sections and the same as last year on small climbs. He sure added some weight. He was racing so much more in a wind at RVV (i was totally confused) he was pulling 20 riders even though Vermeeesh was there. After that he was pulling MvDP almost all the time and finished him in last 13 km. At the Pateberg it was still only 15sec (Kwaremont 6 sec). He also pulled Pidcock in last 5 km and still outsprinted him. I am feeling super confident for P-R but less for LBL, at least i don't believe it will be so easy as last year.

He was clearly burning more matches on flat sections and for that reason he was less fresh for Kwaremont.

 

[Jan the Man]

I think Pogi looks much better in flat sections and the same as last year on small climbs. He sure added some weight. He was racing so much more in a wind at RVV (i was totally confused) he was pulling 20 riders even though Vermeeesh was there. After that he was pulling MvDP almost all the time and finished him in last 13 km. At the Pateberg it was still only 15sec (Kwaremont 6 sec). He also pulled Pidcock in last 5 km and still outsprinted him. I am feeling super confident for P-R but less for LBL, at least i don't believe it will be so easy as last year.

Who knows he looked a step ahead at Strade on the hills granted they were sterrato. However he did manage to distance Sexias who hung tough for a time. Given the form shown this year Sexias and Remco are likely to be the biggest threats at Liege.

 

[BubbaChuck]

He already looks better. Smooth.

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[canina82]

Who knows he looked a step ahead at Strade on the hills granted they were sterrato. However he did manage to distance Sexias who hung tough for a time. Given the form shown this year Sexias and Remco are likely to be the biggest threats at Liege.

Seixas clearly went over the limit and blew. He was caught by Del Toro 1-2 km later.

 

[assisting]

He actually had Van der Poel on a gap in 2023 before the mechanical on Carrefour.

But only because of the clash with Philipsen that brought Degenkolb down. van der Poel was quick to chase on. I don't think van Aert could have won solo that year and I don't envision such a scenario this year as well. But you never know and it should be interesting to see how it pans out.

Pogačar seems very well prepared and brings a strong team. He did get away with van der Poel last year. He should be able to do it again. I would not be surprised if he could manage a deceive attack, but the more likely outcome should be a sprint if no mishaps occur. The weather might be a factor. Him and van der Poel chasing records, van Aert and Pedersen the big fish. It should be another great edition. Looking forward to it.

 

[jmdirt]

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[Extinction]

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Not as likeable, when not playing the part.

 

[canina82]

He crashed 2 times in the recon with Florian. Too much mud on the road.

 

[BubbaChuck]

Is it already your obsession,lmaoo. Now we can see why they start at 13 in France. Well see,if 2 kilos more of muscles will do the difference.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

I think Pogi looks much better in flat sections and the same as last year on small climbs. He sure added some weight. He was racing so much more in a wind at RVV (i was totally confused) he was pulling 20 riders even though Vermeeesh was there. After that he was pulling MvDP almost all the time and finished him in last 13 km. At the Pateberg it was still only 15sec (Kwaremont 6 sec). He also pulled Pidcock in last 5 km and still outsprinted him. I am feeling super confident for P-R but less for LBL, at least i don't believe it will be so easy as last year.

I disagree. PR has no single climb and MVP is a monster on cobbles as well as in a sprint. It will be much more difficult to drop him here than on flandrien bergs.

As for LBL its Pogacar's terrain. Even if Evenepoel and Seixas somehow get very close Pogacar can count on his sprint. I do think he will win solo though.

 

[Salvarani]

I disagree. PR has no single climb and MVP is a monster on cobbles as well as in a sprint. It will be much more difficult to drop him here than on flandrien bergs.

Yeah, it will be very tough to drop him with MVDP in the wheel here. Then MVDP just has to have run empty for that to happen.

I wouldnt mind an unexpected attack like at some random spot. Like Sagan did. To get away.

If it comes down to a sprint, at least it is a chance at it. It is all about what one has left in the legs at that point here.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Yeah, it will be very tough to drop him with MVDP in the wheel here. Then MVDP just has to have run empty for that to happen.

I wouldnt mind an unexpected attack like at some random spot. Like Sagan did. To get away.

If it comes down to a sprint, at least it is a chance at it. It is all about what one has left in the legs at that point here.

Luck factor is also important in Paris Roubaix. If Pogacar is among top2 frontrunners he gives himself a chance to benefit from it and win. I regard this scenario more likely than simply outmuscling MVP on the cobbles, it's happened many times in this race.

 

[yaf2]

Yeah, it will be very tough to drop him with MVDP in the wheel here. Then MVDP just has to have run empty for that to happen.

I wouldnt mind an unexpected attack like at some random spot. Like Sagan did. To get away.

If it comes down to a sprint, at least it is a chance at it. It is all about what one has left in the legs at that point here.

If vdp gives 10 meters for this improved pog at any moment in the race like he did last year, it will be difficult to catch him imo. Being on the wheel all the time is crucial for vdp today. I think pogs performance on debut last year is a bit underrated & I don’t know why but I feel pog is getting the calendar monument this year🤞

 

[Lorzenz08]

If vdp gives 10 meters for this improved pog at any moment in the race like he did last year, it will be difficult to catch him imo. Being on the wheel all the time is crucial for vdp today. I think pogs performance on debut last year is a bit underrated & I don’t know why but I feel pog is getting the calendar monument this year🤞

I hope so but I doubt it. Mvdp develops so much wattsI dont see him struggling to bridge any gap. As long as he is not tired, but how to make him tired on this terrain is the big question

 

[yaf2]

I hope so but I doubt it. Mvdp develops so much wattsI dont see him struggling to bridge any gap. As long as he is not tired, but how to make him tired on this terrain is the big question

Yeah but I feel there is a surprise today