Teams & Riders Tadej Pogačar discussion thread

[Jan the Man]

Competition is what drives improvement. Can only be good for Pog’s drive and motivation even if Seixas starts beating him in some of these in the next couple of years. Also rivalries are what makes sport.

Sadly at this stage it looks like Remco will never be able to make the jump to regularly be able to challenge Pog (nationals and worlds excepted) and so having another rival like Seixas come through is surely a positive.

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

Merckx 1975 with rainbow jersey: Won MSR, won Flanders, lost Roubaix in a sprint against a Belgian, won Liege.

Lost Tour against a Frenchman...

 

[canina82]

Competition is what drives improvement. Can only be good for Pog’s drive and motivation even if Seixas starts beating him in some of these in the next couple of years. Also rivalries are what makes sport.

Sadly at this stage it looks like Remco will never be able to make the jump to regularly be able to challenge Pog (nationals and worlds excepted) and so having another rival like Seixas come through is surely a positive.

Remco's luck is that Pogacar couldn't race LBL in 2022 and crashed out in 2023. So he already overachieved in this race.

 

[canina82]

Merckx 1975 with rainbow jersey: Won MSR, won Flanders, lost Roubaix in a sprint against a Belgian, won Liege.

And lost the TdF. Are you saying he will lose the TdF to Seixas?

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

And lost the TdF. Are you saying he will lose the TdF to Seixas?

No, they are simply curious coincidences.

 

[Rou]

Pogacar with his best ever LBL performance.
Not sure if he is stronger than last year because last year's ride was casual while today he pushed to the limit.
I expected Seixas to follow on Redoute.

 

[canina82]

No, they are simply curious coincidences.

I'm kidding but it would be kinda hilarious.

 

[Rou]

I'm kidding but it would be kinda hilarious.

I would find it normal (disappointing but not shocking) if Seixas beats him in July.
I don't know what to expect from Paul anymore.

 

[canina82]

I would find it normal (disappointing but not shocking) if Seixas beats him in July.
I don't know what to expect from Paul anymore.

Not normal but it wouldn't surprise me.

 

[Jan the Man]

Remco's luck is that Pogacar couldn't race LBL in 2022 and crashed out in 2023. So he already overachieved in this race.

It’s not ‘luck’ - crashes and scheduling are part and parcel of our sport.

Remco had a terrible crash early in his career, which set back his development.

Anyway this is not about Remco it is the general observation that having a rival push you hard is only a positive when it comes to development.

 

[Jan the Man]

Not normal but it wouldn't surprise me.

It would be a surprise. You are talking about a 19 year old beating a 4 time champion and 2 time champion.

I think a victory is very unlikely, not that it isn’t something he should of course be aiming for

 

[the asian]

Merckx 1975 with rainbow jersey: Won MSR, won Flanders, lost Roubaix in a sprint against a Belgian, won Liege.

Lost Tour against a Frenchman...

Merckx had won the Tour five times then, Pog is still on Four though. i'm sure Pog will allowed to win five before the curse strikes.

 

[Salvarani]

Merckx had won the Tour five times then, Pog is still on Four though. i'm sure Pog will allowed to win five before the curse strikes.

Merckx was also punched trying to win his sixth... maybe had something to do with a Frenchman fighting for the win, but idk.

 

[the asian]

Merckx was also punched trying to win his sixth... maybe had something to do with a Frenchman fighting for the win, but idk.

The Frenchies did not want him to beat Anquetil's record.

 

[Krzysztof_O]

Merckx was also punched trying to win his sixth... maybe had something to do with a Frenchman fighting for the win, but idk.

Well, Pogi soon will experience a way less pleasant version of the French public, maybe already this year when trying to join the 5 win club.

 

[canina82]

The Frenchies did not want him to beat Anquetil's record.

Might happen to Pogacar too.

 

[canina82]

It would be a surprise. You are talking about a 19 year old beating a 4 time champion and 2 time champion.

I think a victory is very unlikely, not that it isn’t something he should of course be aiming for

At this point, I believe he is the only one who can beat Pogacar in the Tour.

 

[the asian]

Might happen to Pogacar too.

He has one more win to go.

 

[canina82]

He has one more win to go.

It's true. I believe Pogacar will win the 2026 TdF but Seixas will become king in 2027.

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

I had forgot all about Vermeersch. Now Im angry again. Then again, Van Aert won, but Im still angry. Bjerg and Politt *** it up as well.

I think he wins 3 stages in Romandie. 2, 5 and 6. Maybe stage 1 instead of one of the two last mountain stages

I don't think he would have won Roubaix, but the team's attitude, and the car's, were definitely appalling for him. Today, Cosnefroy sacrificed his position despite arriving in great form. With guys like Pogacar, Remco, or VDP on the team, star attitudes are ridiculous. Not even Philippsen, twice second in Roubaix, doubted.


For the prologue, Wantson isn't on the pre-list for the Tour de Romandie, so Ivo is the favorite; in recent years they have benn 1-2.

Cosnefroy isn't going; he beat them in a prologue in France in 2024

Boucles de la Mayenne - Crédit Mutuel 2024 Prologue results

Boucles de la Mayenne - Crédit Mutuel 2024 Prologue from Espace Mayenne - Laval to Espace Mayenne - Laval was won by Benoît Cosnefroy before Ivo Oliveira and Samuel Watson. Benoît Cosnefroy was leading the general classification.

www.procyclingstats.com

 

[Krzysztof_O]

So Tour de Romandie is around the corner and proper long climbs are awaiting. Can bulked-up Pogi still climb? Those 3-4 minutes uphill sprints he did recently won't matter on big cols against stage racing monsters like Rogla and Lipo. Hopefully Pogi can transition smoothly from classics to stage-racing without exceeding the time limit on any stage.

 

[SHAD0W93]

So Tour de Romandie is around the corner and proper long climbs are awaiting. Can bulked-up Pogi still climb? Those 3-4 minutes uphill sprints he did recently won't matter on big cols against stage racing monsters like Rogla and Lipo. Hopefully Pogi can transition smoothly from classics to stage-racing without exceeding the time limit on any stage.

I know you like hyping races up but really about one of those riders?

 

[BahamontesPhantom]

Pog will beat Sexy ass easy this tour. Next year it will be closer

 

[canina82]

Rumours that Almeida will be in the TdF.
Maybe he isn't in shape right now. His TdF team will be very strong.

 

[Coppi-Bartali]

Rumours that Almeida will be in the TdF.
Maybe he isn't in shape right now. His TdF team will be very strong.

And who will lead UAE in the Vuelta? Del Toro?