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I have looked at this years start list of riders and numbering and Mark Cavendish is number 1 and Contador is 100

Is the team number going to be different this year as I thought that number 1
goes to last years winner and with teams the number 1 on the number shows the team leader has this now changed.
 
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Considering there's no number 100, I don't know what drunken german archaeologist wrote that list you're reading

Contador should be number 1.

EDIT: In case a german actually wrote that list....I was only joking. Please don't invade. Thank you.
 
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tonyellow said:
This is going to be a good start with all the numbers wrong :confused:
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Just wait a couple of days for the official startlist :)

Unless for some reason the organizers decide to change the Tour's entire numbering tradition. Wouldn't be the first time.

For many years they had the defending champion wear 51 just to sponsor a candy brand "Pastis 51". As a result, 51 is the winningest number in Tour history :p
 
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Winningest is one of my most hated terms. It just looks wrong.

The backnumbers, iirc, go in the order of where the team's lead rider (who is present) finished in the previous year's race; Astana were numbered 21-29 last year because officially nobody came 3rd in 2008...

The numbers will likely be something similar to this as a result:
1-9: Astana (Contador 1st)
11-19: Saxo Bank (Schleck 2nd)
21-29: Radioshack (Armstrong 3rd)
31-39: Team Sky (Wiggins 4th)
41-49: Liquigas (Nibali 7th)
51-59: Garmin (Vande Velde 8th)
61-69: Française des Jeux (Le Mevel 10th)
71-79: Katyusha (Karpets 13th - Astarloza was 11th but won't be there)
81-89: Ag2r (Nocentini 14th)
91-99: Omega Pharma-Lotto (Van Den Broeck 15th)
101-109: Cervélo (Sastre 17th)
111-119: BMC (Hincapie 19th)
121-129: Quick Step (Chavanel 20th)
131-139: Milram (Knees 21st)
141-149: Bbox (Rolland 22nd)
151-159: Caisse d'Epargne (Sánchez 26th)
161-169: Columbia (Monfort 28th)
171-179: Cofidis (Minard 38th)
181-189: Euskaltel (Martínez 44th)
191-199: Rabobank (Menchov 51st)
201-209: Lampre (Loosli 52nd)
211-219: Footon

edit - this means Evans might get #115 (though obviously #111 is far more likely). This is a useful number to have. Something always seems to happen to #115. Bernhard Kohl was it in 2008, then David Garçia won a stage with it in the Vuelta. Pellizotti wore it in the '09 Giro before José Iván Gutiérrez took it to the most breakaway kms at last year's race.
 
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issoisso said:
For many years they had the defending champion wear 51 just to sponsor a candy brand "Pastis 51". As a result, 51 is the winningest number in Tour history :p
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Robert Gesink has been listed as 51 on the CN start list :eek::eek::eek:

I too think 'winningest' is a funny word to look at
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
Winningest is one of my most hated terms. It just looks wrong.

The backnumbers, iirc, go in the order of where the team's lead rider (who is present) finished in the previous year's race; Astana were numbered 21-29 last year because officially nobody came 3rd in 2008...

The numbers will likely be something similar to this as a result:
1-9: Astana (Contador 1st)
11-19: Saxo Bank (Schleck 2nd)
21-29: Radioshack (Armstrong 3rd)
31-39: Team Sky (Wiggins 4th)
41-49: Liquigas (Nibali 7th)
51-59: Garmin (Vande Velde 8th)
61-69: Française des Jeux (Le Mevel 10th)
71-79: Katyusha (Karpets 13th - Astarloza was 11th but won't be there)
81-89: Ag2r (Nocentini 14th)
91-99: Omega Pharma-Lotto (Van Den Broeck 15th)
101-109: Cervélo (Sastre 17th)
111-119: BMC (Hincapie 19th)
121-129: Quick Step (Chavanel 20th)
131-139: Milram (Knees 21st)
141-149: Bbox (Rolland 22nd)
151-159: Caisse d'Epargne (Sánchez 26th)
161-169: Columbia (Monfort 28th)
171-179: Cofidis (Minard 38th)
181-189: Euskaltel (Martínez 44th)
191-199: Rabobank (Menchov 51st)
201-209: Lampre (Loosli 52nd)
211-219: Footon

edit - this means Evans might get #115 (though obviously #111 is far more likely). This is a useful number to have. Something always seems to happen to #115. Bernhard Kohl was it in 2008, then David Garçia won a stage with it in the Vuelta. Pellizotti wore it in the '09 Giro before José Iván Gutiérrez took it to the most breakaway kms at last year's race.
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I always thought 1-10 was for the winner and then the rest was alphabetical.

If no one finished 3rd shouldnt 20-29 have gone to the guy who finished 4th (menchov). I say that because in your list you give 41-49 to liquigas even though nibali finished 7th not 5th.
 
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I always thought 1-10 was for the winner and then the rest was alphabetical.

If no one finished 3rd shouldnt 20-29 have gone to the guy who finished 4th (menchov). I say that because in your list you give 41-49 to liquigas even though nibali finished 7th not 5th.
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At the Giro and Vuelta 1-9 is the winner's team then the rest is alphabetical. But last year's Tour saw Saxo as numbers 41-49 and Caisse as numbers 111-119!

In my list Liquigas are 41-49 because the riders who finished 5th and 6th are Fränk Schleck (on Saxo Bank so already in numbers 11-19) and Andreas Klöden (on Radioshack so already in numbers 21-29), so they are skipped and it goes to the next rider, which was Nibali in 7th.

The 2009 Tour's numbering was slightly odd because nobody was given 3rd place; Bernhard Kohl's results were stricken from the record but nevertheless Menchov was not elevated to the podium, meaning that he was still 4th (#s 31-39) and there was a gap in front of him. The ASO simply plugged the previous year's absentees into that gap.
 
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Stra&#223 said:
It's too late we are sending the Chancellor of Germany Frau Merkel over to make love to all males of military age!
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You really are great at coming up with ludicrously horrifying forms of torture, you know that?

Also, I somehow don't think "Love" is in Merkel's vocabulary
 
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The start list is not yet final - the bib #'s are generally assigned 48 hours before the start.

Of course, Contador will start the race as #1 as defending champion. What is posted on the CN site is a provisional list that, because our start list machine requires bib #'s, does not have accurate bibs or team orders.

However, the list of riders is being kept up to date as we receive team rosters. The final start list will be published on Friday.

Thanks for reading,
Laura
 
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Naaah... otherwise Riis wouldn't have had his little luxury problem of which rider from his ten-rider shortlist to lose!

(That was the time that sort of things were his greatest issues... :rolleyes:)

Hmm... who wore #1 in 2006?
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There are differing protocols for when the defending champion isn't present.

In 2006, Discovery Channel kept the rights to #1 because of Lance, and José Azevedo wore #1. He had finished 30th in 2005.

In 2007, there was no defending champion once again. Or rather there was, but it was unconfirmed. As a result, numbers 1-9 were not issued, and Óscar Pereiro wore #11 as most runners-up from the previous year do.

In 2008, there was no defending champion yet again, since Astana were excluded because of their antics in 2007, despite containing the riders who placed 1st and 3rd in the 2007 Tour, who weren't on the team at the time. In this case everybody was shunted down one; Evans (2nd in 2007) wore #1, Sastre (4th in 2007) #11 and so on.

In the 2009 Giro, defending champion Contador was absent, and so all teams were placed in alphabetical order, meaning #1 was worn by Stefano Garzelli. In 2010, however, they changed this protocol, awarding a chosen rider "favourite" status, and that rider's team would be numbered 1-9. This rider was Cadel Evans - so he has worn #1 in two GTs despite never winning one.

In the Vuelta, there lacks consistency also. In the 2009 Vuelta, Samuel Sánchez wore #1, but the rest of the teams were in alphabetical order. In 2008, Carlos Sastre, who was runner up in 2007 to Menchov, wore #1, while in 2007, with Vino not present for obvious reasons, all teams were listed alphabetically, meaning that #1 was worn by José Luis Arrieta.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
In 2008, there was no defending champion yet again, since Astana were excluded because of their antics in 2007, despite containing the riders who placed 1st and 3rd in the 2007 Tour, who weren't on the team at the time. In this case everybody was shunted down one; Evans (2nd in 2007) wore #1, Sastre (4th in 2007) #11 and so .
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Valverde is banned this vuelta. If samu were to not participate then evans would perhaps wear the number 1 jersey, making it a grand slam of, well wearing the number 1 jersey in a grand tour (without having won a grand tour, obviously)

Ironically contador is yet to wear the number 1 jersey in a gt despite having won 4 while evans is obviously, winless so far.
 
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Libertine Seguros said:
Winningest is one of my most hated terms. It just looks wrong.

The backnumbers, iirc, go in the order of where the team's lead rider (who is present) finished in the previous year's race; Astana were numbered 21-29 last year because officially nobody came 3rd in 2008...

The numbers will likely be something similar to this as a result:
1-9: Astana (Contador 1st)
11-19: Saxo Bank (Schleck 2nd)
21-29: Radioshack (Armstrong 3rd)
31-39: Team Sky (Wiggins 4th)
41-49: Liquigas (Nibali 7th)
51-59: Garmin (Vande Velde 8th)
61-69: Française des Jeux (Le Mevel 10th)
71-79: Katyusha (Karpets 13th - Astarloza was 11th but won't be there)
81-89: Ag2r (Nocentini 14th)
91-99: Omega Pharma-Lotto (Van Den Broeck 15th)
101-109: Cervélo (Sastre 17th)
111-119: BMC (Hincapie 19th)
121-129: Quick Step (Chavanel 20th)
131-139: Milram (Knees 21st)
141-149: Bbox (Rolland 22nd)
151-159: Caisse d'Epargne (Sánchez 26th)
161-169: Columbia (Monfort 28th)
171-179: Cofidis (Minard 38th)
181-189: Euskaltel (Martínez 44th)
191-199: Rabobank (Menchov 51st)
201-209: Lampre (Loosli 52nd)
211-219: Footon

edit - this means Evans might get #115 (though obviously #111 is far more likely). This is a useful number to have. Something always seems to happen to #115. Bernhard Kohl was it in 2008, then David Garçia won a stage with it in the Vuelta. Pellizotti wore it in the '09 Giro before José Iván Gutiérrez took it to the most breakaway kms at last year's race.
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Here are the numbers....looks like you were right?

http://www.letour.fr/2010/TDF/RIDERS/us/partants.html
 
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