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TDF Stage 9 - Tuesday, July 13 2010, Morzine-Avoriaz - Saint-Jean-de-Maurienne, 204 k

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auscyclefan94 said:
A bit of I told you so I guess will come in but I am proud of him regardless of the results. Getting into the jersey was already a great result for the team. Even one day in it is a great result even though it is not the one they wanted. I know he must be annoyed about certain illnesses and injuries coming up and destroying his main goals for the season but it is great to see what a changed more attacking rider he has become this year. Hopefully he can get a stage win but he has represented the rainbow stripes very well.

It was great to see him embrace his team mates which indicates a very close group. The way the BMC team rode, which is not a team of great climbers who can ride on the front in the mountains, showed the dedication to Cadel and his aspirations. I am not sad today but am happy seeing the aussie spirit in Cadel while fighting for yellow

yep... all these boys are tough hard fellas... and lil' Cadel is one of them... it is tough to see a true competitor crash out ..
and it is also becoming rotten that some of these guys seem to be very well nourished after rest days... I find it incredulous that someone like Schelk can be totally dusted in the TofC but then ride the same people into the ground a few weeks later...

I hope the Evans can pick himself up and ride well again in the Vuelta
 
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ericthesportsman6 said:
I live in California, and I don't want to hear about Lance, or Levi for that matter. But 99% of Americans watching the Tour know nothing about anything in cycling except for Lance. That's the audience Versus is trying to appeal to, so Phil and Paul are instructed to rage all day long about Lance. Believe me, I would love new commentators, but it's not gonna happen.

I'm just glad we get the coverage we do. I did get a bit annoyed when they couldn't place where Gesink and Menchov were for a half hour.
 
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I finally got to watch today's stage. Alberto looked great. Wow. Excellent stage. Pedal stroke and cadence were perfect. If he can stay out of trouble, he will most likely come into perfect form exactly when he needs it.
 
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ColumbusSL said:
yep... all these boys are tough hard fellas... and lil' Cadel is one of them... it is tough to see a true competitor crash out ..
and it is also becoming rotten that some of these guys seem to be very well nourished after rest days... I find it incredulous that someone like Schelk can be totally dusted in the TofC but then ride the same people into the ground a few weeks later...

I hope the Evans can pick himself up and ride well again in the Vuelta

OMG get real. He rode some of the classics, he rode the Giro, he's riding the TdF (and indicated he wants to finish it, with a broken elbow :eek: ), now he's supposed to ride well in the Vuelta as well? Give the poor guy some rest. With your amount expectations, no wonder you get disappointed more often than not. No one can do what you expect from Evans.
 
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OMG get real. He rode some of the classics, he rode the Giro, he's riding the TdF (and indicated he wants to finish it, with a broken elbow :eek: ), now he's supposed to ride well in the Vuelta as well? Give the poor guy some rest. With your amount expectations, no wonder you get disappointed more often than not. No one can do what you expect from Evans.

??? never said he is below my expectations...
he rode the Vuelta very well in 09 ... and hope he will ride well in it this year if he can ...
I am sure he will ride the rest of this tour well also... he is representing the WC jersey with good aussi pride... a crash injury is part of the gig in roadracing
 
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??? never said he is below my expectations...
he rode the Vuelta very well in 09 ... and hope he will ride well in it this year if he can ...
I am sure he will ride the rest of this tour well also... he is representing the WC jersey with good aussi pride... a crash injury is part of the gig in roadracing

Fortunately the Vuelta Organizers have more compassion for the poor guy than you and give him a break this year (as nvjxikqhr reminded us)
 
Moose McKnuckles said:
Astana drilled it as soon as they saw Evans was in trouble. That's why they caught Vino so fast. They AS attacked.

Seriously, that's one of the most extreme shifts in tempo I've ever seen. BMC (Santambrogio) were obviously taking it very slow up the first part of the climb with Saxo putting in a few efforts but nothing extreme.

Then all of a sudden Navarro got on the front and decided to create carnage and shortly after there was only Contador and Schleck remaining.
 
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ColumbusSL said:
yep... all these boys are tough hard fellas... and lil' Cadel is one of them... it is tough to see a true competitor crash out ..
and it is also becoming rotten that some of these guys seem to be very well nourished after rest days... I find it incredulous that someone like Schelk can be totally dusted in the TofC but then ride the same people into the ground a few weeks later...

Exactly right...but lets not go into that on here.
 
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craig1985 said:
Mucho respect for Cadel for racing with a fractured elbow. He should be at home resting, but **** that, let's man up and race!

Gotta admit. I was pretty emotional seeing him after the stage. To also keep it a secret was a sign of a great champion.
 
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auscyclefan94 said:
Gotta admit. I was pretty emotional seeing him after the stage. To also keep it a secret was a sign of a great champion.

Anybody races with a broken or fractured bone deserves a lot of respect. Robbie Mcewen raced the 2004 Tour with a cracked vertebrae.
 
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craig1985 said:
Anybody races with a broken or fractured bone deserves a lot of respect. Robbie Mcewen raced the 2004 Tour with a cracked vertebrae.

Agree, huge props to Cadel.

Iirc Contador won the Giro in 2008 with a fractured elbow.
 
I find it funny and even amusing people find it astonishing that Andy Schleck can ride this way after being dropped in the Tour of California or being humiliated in the Tour of Suisse.

If after 5 years, you still don't know how Andy Schleck goes from 'looking bad' to 'top form', then what have you been doing?
Andy Schleck rides on certain heart rate limits in the races prior to his 'peak races'. He won't go into certain levels of red for longer than "x" minutes. And then he drops off.

This is how he sucked in all preparation races for years. Giro 07, TDF 08, Ardennes 09, TDF 09, etc etc... Just check the results in the races prior to those, and you'll find he dissapointed in them
 
looking at the stage. Its really surprising how much time Samu managed to put into the rabo, leipheimer, rodriguez group, considering he was on his own for a good 40km, 10 uphill, where he put in about 40 seconds, and then another 40 seconds on the 15 downhill and managed to hold this for the 15 straight, even though the others were working together.
 
The Hitch said:
looking at the stage. Its really surprising how much time Samu managed to put into the rabo, leipheimer, rodriguez group, considering he was on his own for a good 40km, 10 uphill, where he put in about 40 seconds, and then another 40 seconds on the 15 downhill and managed to hold this for the 15 straight, even though the others were working together.
From what I heard (since we didn't get to see the Menchov-Gesink group, the tv broadcast was a disgrace) Menchov and Gesink did all the work in the chase. Gesink had a hunger knock, and he felt that he'd blown up the others in the climb, so they weren't much help.
 
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Dekker_Tifosi said:
I find it funny and even amusing people find it astonishing that Andy Schleck can ride this way after being dropped in the Tour of California or being humiliated in the Tour of Suisse.

If after 5 years, you still don't know how Andy Schleck goes from 'looking bad' to 'top form', then what have you been doing?
Andy Schleck rides on certain heart rate limits in the races prior to his 'peak races'. He won't go into certain levels of red for longer than "x" minutes. And then he drops off.

This is how he sucked in all preparation races for years. Giro 07, TDF 08, Ardennes 09, TDF 09, etc etc... Just check the results in the races prior to those, and you'll find he dissapointed in them

This is what training is all about. Raising the threshold by being at the top of it for a while, and not going beyond it, is the whole point, and Schleck and Contador do it very well, indeed.
 
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theyoungest said:
From what I heard (since we didn't get to see the Menchov-Gesink group, the tv broadcast was a disgrace) Menchov and Gesink did all the work in the chase. Gesink had a hunger knock, and he felt that he'd blown up the others in the climb, so they weren't much help.
actually, gesink did most of the work. in a rare comment after the stage, denis thanked bobby for that. also, interpreting the post race comments on rabosport, gesink despite being the strongest in the quartet and having his team's permission to 'fly', preferred to work in the group.
 
theyoungest said:
From what I heard (since we didn't get to see the Menchov-Gesink group, the tv broadcast was a disgrace) Menchov and Gesink did all the work in the chase. Gesink had a hunger knock, and he felt that he'd blown up the others in the climb, so they weren't much help.

If thats the case, im surprised gesink and those he was drafting, managed to stay away from basso, armstrong, vdb group.
 
The Hitch said:
If thats the case, im surprised gesink and those he was drafting, managed to stay away from basso, armstrong, vdb group.

Downhill and on the flat Menchov did a lot of work. Gesink said he saw the road double because of hunger. Voigt handed him some of his fluidsugardrinks (whatever they are called in english) else he would still be on the road he said 3 hours after he finised :D