Team Ineos Discussion thread

[yaco]

Then it's weird that you don't respond to it.

This is what I replied to:

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It should be, according to @yaco. If it's purely a business matter for Ineos, then they are under no obligation to fund other teams.

The point is other teams who are less wealthy can have a women's team ,and they make it work from a business point of view, or else, these teams would not be around.

 

[Netserk]

The point is other teams who are less wealthy can have a women's team ,and they make it work from a business point of view, or else, these teams would not be around.

And what can you then infer when such team are not around?

 

[awavey]

And what can you then infer when such team are not around?

It was a choice in Team Sky days, when the reputation value would have been high.

Whether it's not value for money now, I don't know, costs are higher but still a fraction of a men's pro Team, however I doubt that many are that interested in Land Rover copy, the value for Ineos is then difficult to quantify.

I don't think Sir Jim is bothered anyway about women's sport.

 

[Axel Hangleck]

I don't think Sir Jim is bothered anyway about women's sport.

Weren't the Man Utd women's team moved out of their training premises - to elsewhere, away from the men's a while ago?

 

[King Of The Wolds]

It was a choice in Team Sky days, when the reputation value would have been high.

Whether it's not value for money now, I don't know, costs are higher but still a fraction of a men's pro Team, however I doubt that many are that interested in Land Rover copy, the value for Ineos is then difficult to quantify.

I don't think Sir Jim is bothered anyway about women's sport.

Radcliffe is only bothered about getting UK tax payers buying him a multi-billion pound stadium.

 

[awavey]

Weren't the Man Utd women's team moved out of their training premises - to elsewhere, away from the men's a while ago?

Yes...

 

[Tim Cahill]

He also sacked like half the back-office staff

Thattl get Antony scoring

 

[Rob5091]

Luke Rowe off to AG2R? One of the old guard is supposedly out the door next year.
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...enadiers-and-become-ds-in-rival-team-for-2025

https://dnlbenson.substack.com/p/luke-rowe-set-for-ds-role-at-decathlon

 

[Bolder]

Luke Rowe off to AG2R? One of the old guard is supposedly out the door next year.
https://cyclinguptodate.com/cycling...enadiers-and-become-ds-in-rival-team-for-2025

https://dnlbenson.substack.com/p/luke-rowe-set-for-ds-role-at-decathlon

That would be interesting, I've heard Rowe on GT's podcast a few times and he seems pretty thoughtful.

That said, I hope he speaks some French. I spent a day with Citroen/AG2R at the 2022 Tour on a sponsor's junket and their staff did NOT speak English well; the language of the team was nearly 100% French. Of course times change.

 

[RedheadDane]

Luke Rowe off to AG2R? One of the old guard is supposedly out the door next year.

They're also already on 29 riders for next year, and given the Castrillo business, they're probably leaving one spot open.

 

[Rob5091]

Just so everyone's on the same page, Luke Rowe plans to be a DS at AG2R and not as a rider.

 

[Brullnux]

Just so everyone's on the same page, Luke Rowe plans to be a DS at AG2R and not as a rider.

I genuinely have no clue why Ineos didn't take him on as a DS, even if just for culture/personal relations reasons. They're really all at sea.

 

[elguapo]

Perhaps Ineos would try to recruit the younger Hector Alvarez after Pablo Torres declined their offer. The thing is, Ineos has enlisted a lot of 23 and under riders since they have signed Ganna in 2019. Then the long list to include Hayter, Pidcock bros, CRod, Sheffield, Turner, Tarling, Leonard, August, and etc. followed. All these talents were attracted to Ineos paycheck with the accompanying program of training and development. So far, on the aspect of development, stagnation is prevailing in the team.

 

[Izzyeviel]

'We need to talk about Sir Jim Ratcliffe'

Its mostly about his football adventures, but it covers a lot about Ineos/Ratcliffe & how they run football clubs. I thought some of you would find it very interesting.

 

[Rob5091]

'We need to talk about Sir Jim Ratcliffe'

Its mostly about his football adventures, but it covers a lot about Ineos/Ratcliffe & how they run football clubs. I thought some of you would find it very interesting.

There is a real football thread over at the non-cycling discussions. Maybe it's better over there?

 

[Izzyeviel]

There is a real football thread over at the non-cycling discussions. Maybe it's better over there?

I thought it would give people an insight into why Ineos are no longer the team they used to be & what to expect for the future. If a mod wants to move it or you want to post it there, feel free.

 

[Mayomaniac]

'We need to talk about Sir Jim Ratcliffe'

Its mostly about his football adventures, but it covers a lot about Ineos/Ratcliffe & how they run football clubs. I thought some of you would find it very interesting.

Tbf, United was a complete mess way before he took over.

 

[Izzyeviel]

Everything he touches turns to disaster

 

[wansteadimp]

Everything he touches turns to disaster

Tell Jimmy Spithill and the Luna Rossa crew that.

 

[Izzyeviel]

Thats more to do with him not knowing anything about sailing & leaving that bit to Sir Ben Ainsle & Adrian Newey.

 

[Wyndbrook]

Thats more to do with him not knowing anything about sailing & leaving that bit to Sir Ben Ainsle & Adrian Newey.

There is only one thing you need to know about Americas cup sailing, it costs an awful lot of money. £110 million so far for Jim I believe.

 

[Izzyeviel]

There is only one thing you need to know about Americas cup sailing, it costs an awful lot of money. £110 million so far for Jim I believe.

over 300 million. Man Utd, lausanne, Mercedes, Ineos, all huge budgets with a mediocre return.

 

[Wyndbrook]

over 300 million. Man Utd, lausanne, Mercedes, Ineos, all huge budgets with a mediocre return.

Well he's not lost the Americas Cup yet.