- Jul 21, 2012
red_flanders said:What statement did I make? I thought I just asked a question.
In 2008 we had Valverde, Piepoli, Ricco and a host of other dopers at the fore. Leipheimer and Contador not invited IIRC. The next year we had Armstrong, Contador, the Schlecks, Klöden, Nibali and Wiggins in the top places. All know dopers other than Wiggins.
Looks like a DNF for Wiggo in 2007? No participation in 2008 to focus on Beijing. In 2006 he was 124th place, 3 HOURS and 25 minutes down.
So you have a guy who improved his time from 3 years before by about 3.5 hours in a completely doped field. This is because people were doping less?
The field as a whole did not change in this way. Sure a couple riders improved their results and a lot lost time. But from almost coming in last amongst the finishers or a DNF to 4th?
I don't care what happened in the peloton, that's ASTOUNDING. Let me re-iterate for those who seek to diminish what happened. 3.5 HOURS difference in time. How is that remotely possible clean? It's not.
He did ride the giro in 2008 though, an impressive 134th, about 4 hours down. So we are supposed to believe the peloton became 4 hours slower in a little over one year?
Its not even an exaggeration to say that Wiggins was climbing on the same level as Cavendish back then.
From lead out man and gruppetto rider on every MTF, to top 3 in one of the fastest tours of the decade. I dont understand how anyone can rationalize this as a clean performance.