Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[Grandillusion]

The only evidence was that without the compenation from his crash was young wiggo couldn't afford a racing bike, but wait the Hog thinks he went to Eton (maybe they shared a dorm together), its confusing.

Exactly! They'd rather see the "hilarious" Epo-connection joke, than the bleedin' obvious fact he couldn't afford a bike. And he gave half the compensation money to his Mum.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

Exactly! They'd rather see the "hilarious" Epo-connection joke, than the bleedin' obvious fact he couldn't afford a bike. And he gave half the compensation money to his Mum.

So the car hit him as a pedestrian?

 

[thehog]

Exactly! They'd rather see the "hilarious" Epo-connection joke, than the bleedin' obvious fact he couldn't afford a bike. And he gave half the compensation money to his Mum.

Well he'd have to have a bike in the first place to be in the crash to obtain the compensation. So he just got a brand new red shiney model. And £700 is not half of £1700 but I'm sure Mum still appreciated it. Would have paid for the turbo trainer she bought him for Christmas

 

[Grandillusion]

So the car hit him as a pedestrian?

More desperate by the day MJM... first racing bike.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

More desperate by the day MJM... first racing bike.

Did you not see the winky man icon?

 

[Grandillusion]

Did you not see the winky man icon?

Oops missed it... no offence intended

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

The 3rd book is already serialised so we do know the content. Thats what we're talking about. Have you not been listening?

And who said anything about doping?

We're talking about the "narrative".

Keep up son. It's not all about doping in here.

Good that from a brief extract you can tell us that the new book covers exactly the same story as one written four years ago. Flloish of Wiggins to not include anything that happened this year though as that would have surely been a big selling point. Then again, you thought that his 2008 autobiography featured a diary of the 2010 TDF so I don't think we should take your views to seriously.

 

[thehog]

Good that from a brief extract you can tell us that the new book covers exactly the same story as one written four years ago. Flloish of Wiggins to not include anything that happened this year though as that would have surely been a big selling point. Then again, you thought that his 2008 autobiography featured a diary of the 2010 TDF so I don't think we should take your views to seriously.

I think you mean "foolish" not Flloish.

Not anyway did I state the diary was his 2008 autobiography. Nice try but wrong again.

Keep trying though.

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

My comment was more about the media that is always complaining about 'working class benefit scroungers' 'single mothers' and 'compensation culture'. Bread and butter 'news' for the Hate Mail.

Amusing that Wiggins as the working class son of a single mother and an immigrant father gets his start as a result of compensation. I suspect that the only way the Mail would report this would be to reveal that the driver of the car that hit him was an illegal east european gypsy. Or to simply omit the immigrant father and the compensation etc. All about the narrative.

Of course should Wiggins ever get popped then he will become 'Belgium born Wiggins' rather than Kilburn/Maida Vale/Paddington Wiggins in the UK media. I'm sure that his Australian roots would also be re-discovered by the UK media along with his speaking French (always a sign of someone dodgy in the eyes of the Mail if you can speak another language), and it'll be about how he got paid x millions from lottery money and spends his money on jackets etc etc

 

[andy1234]

So talking of narrative, I may have got this wrong, but it appears that now it's not Wiggins, but the Hog who is the working class boy done good. . .

Starting on the mean streets of Cambridge, the Hog spent his summers as a teenager punting tourists and students around the river Cam, smiling politely for them, while deep down a burning resentment smouldered. But then, by dint of his bravery and persistence in going to school, passing A levels and applying through the UCAS system, he won a place at the dreaming spires of his dreams. Putting up with the condescension of his new peers, and living in a one bedroom flat with his mum, he passed his English and Philosophy bachelors degree, and even paid the £10 admin fee to claim his masters.

From there, he tread an unusual and perilous past, cynically 'playing' his Cambridge connections to score a job working in PR in London, all the while restlessly moving between the suburbs of Clapham (but near the Brixton borders!), Crouch End (but on the Archway end!), and Finsbury Park (well, OK then, Highbury) before settling in the little known suburb of Notting Hill - which, a little over 50 years earlier, had been the scenes of race riots.

It's a great story, which I'm sure you could get at least three books from.

That said, it's not really very street is it?

Now thats a story I want to read, get onto it Hoggy!
In the meantime, for those who cant wait, I am reliably informed that this novel was based on The Hog.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Walter_Mitty

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

I think you mean "foolish" not Flloish.

Not anyway did I state the diary was his 2008 autobiography. Nice try but wrong again.

Keep trying though.

Nothing wrong at all, you said all three books he has released cover the same story. This is a fact, it's there in black and white for all to see.

Apologies for the spelling mistake by the way, I hope it didn't cause any offence. Your meaningless sentence 'Not anyway did I state the diary was his 2008 autobiography' certainly didn't offend me.

 

[thehog]

Nothing wrong at all, you said all three books he has released cover the same story. This is a fact, it's there in black and white for all to see.

Apologies for the spelling mistake by the way, I hope it didn't cause any offence. Your meaningless sentence 'Not anyway did I state the diary was his 2008 autobiography' certainly didn't offend me.

Keep trying. But still not about to Hog standards.

Yes the books look very different. Completely different stories. No cashing in whatsoever.

Maybe in his next book he can tell us about childhood and the hard work required to make it to the top? I'd like to know about that. I'd like to hear about the journey


In Pursuit of Glory

Wiggins is an inspirational figure to many: immensely talented, dedicated and cool, he has brought his sport to a whole new audience and was awarded the OBE in 2004 for his efforts. This fascinating and revealing account of his life and career will come out soon after. In it, he will not only reveal the sheer hard work required to get to the very top, but also provide a fascinating and controversial insight into the sometimes murky world of cycling.

Tour

'There is me trailing home 131st and, for all I know, I might be a top 50 rider if we all started on a level playing field ...******** to you all. You are a bunch of cheating *******s. At least I can look myself in the mirror.' Bradley Wiggins contemplates Floyd Landis testing positive for testosterone in the 2006 Tour de France The 2010 account will be an instant book published in the autumn following the Tour. Part day-by-day diary it will also include wider, deeper reflections on the history of the Tour, famous figures, etc, and be illustrated with Scott Mitchell's atmospheric, black and white photography. The Tour has featured in Wiggins's 2008 autobiography, but really only in the light of a scandal he was caught up in. The emphasis of that book was very much on his childhood, his father and track cycling at the Olympics; here, Wiggins' new found love of road racing, and its pinnacle, the Tour de France, take centre stage, particularly the gruelling 2010 race, which although played out somewhat in the shadow of his high finish in 2009, was nevertheless an exemplary exercise in true grit, and fighting spirit against the odds.

My Time

On 22 July 2012 Bradley Wiggins became the first British man ever to win the Tour de France. In an instant 'Wiggo' became a national hero. Ten days later, having swapped his yellow jersey for the colours of Team GB, he won Olympic gold in the time trial, adding to his previous six medals to become the nation's most decorated Olympian of all time.

Outspoken, honest, intelligent and fearless, Wiggins has been hailed as the people's champion. In My Time he tells the story of the remarkable journey that led to him winning the world's toughest race. He opens up about his life on and off the bike, about the personal anguish that has driven him on and what it's like behind the scenes at Team Sky: the brutal training regimes, the sacrifices and his views on his teammates and rivals. He talks too about his anger at the spectre of doping that pursues his sport, how he dealt with the rush of taking Olympic gold and above all what it takes to be the greatest.

 

[Bernie's eyesore]

Keep trying. But still not about to Hog standards.

Yes the books look very different. Completely different stories. No cashing in whatsoever.

Maybe in his next book he can tell us about childhood and the hard work required to make it to the top? I'd like to know about that. I'd like to hear about the journey


In Pursuit of Glory


Tour


My Time

I'm struggling to see your point here, they don't sound like the same book at all. Obviously all contain things relevant to his cycling career, maybe he should have just done one book about cycling, then maybe done a cookery or gardening book as the follow up? And of course he is 'cashing in', whoever claimed he wasn't? Why wouldn't he take the opportunity to make as much money as he can now whilst he can, he will be retired in a few years after all. It's not as if people are being forced to read the books.

Anyway, as a proven liar, I shall not be communicating with you again, you genuinely seem to have something wrong with you.

 

[CharacterFirst]

Something doesn't add up about the guy.

Something doesn't add up alright.

He's half decent at sport and he ride for the Poms instead of the Aussies. What was he thinking??

 

[thehog]

Anyway, as a proven liar, I shall not be communicating with you again, you genuinely seem to have something wrong with you.

Wayne Rooney doesn't even have 3 books!

Anyway that was quick end to our debate.

I'm a proven liar. There you go. Lucky you don't hold the same standards to Wiggo. You know "Lance I love him, never raced against him - myth - raced him in 2009" interchangeable stories.

Come back another time when you toughen up and can stand the heat of the Clinic. Now on ya bike!

 

[Mrs John Murphy]

Wayne Rooney doesn't even have 3 books!

Shane Warne story. Warne comes up to a journalist who is waiting to interview him. The journalist has been waiting for a while and has started reading the book. Warne comments - you reading a book? I read a book once. It was green.

And in honour of Andy1234 a Wayne Rooney story.

Rooney is making his debut for Man Utd in a friendly. Fergie is giving the team talk before the match.

Fergie: 'I'm going to pull you off at half time'

Rooney 'Fantastic normally I only get an orange and a cup of tea.'

 

[thehog]

Shane Warne story. Warne comes up to a journalist who is waiting to interview him. The journalist has been waiting for a while and has started reading the book. Warne comments - you reading a book? I read a book once. It was green.

And in honour of Andy1234 a Wayne Rooney story.

Rooney is making his debut for Man Utd in a friendly. Fergie is giving the team talk before the match.

Fergie: 'I'm going to pull you off at half time'

Rooney 'Fantastic normally I only get an orange and a cup of tea.'

Love it!

Now Wayne is real working class!

You're not working class until you've done a granny

Edit: Gazza's thought provoking comment on the back sleeve is inspiring. That's the real England!

 

[jamiephillips]

^^ Should be in the lame joke thread. That ones older than me!!

*edit* This was allegedly a conversation between Rodney Marsh and Alf Ramsey during Marsh's last game for England....

**edit** Think this thread has died a death???

 

[JimmyFingers]

Hoggo, I have a simple solution to your issue with Wiggins' books

Don't buy 'em

 

[thehog]

Hoggo, I have a simple solution to your issue with Wiggins' books

Don't buy 'em

I don't. The same is you don't have to read my proof in regards to Sky doping.

I agree. It's simple

 

[ultimobici]

And this my friends is what's known as class. Or in your case lack thereof.

Townies were the poor. The locals. Deriding and belittling of the townies because they lacked a "proper" education is popular among British in attempt to put others in their place.

Thank-you for showing the board how the class system is alive and well today.

I wonder what the boy from Kilburn thinks about yourself? Shameless.

Far from denigrating those not fortunate enough to have an Oxbridge education, I was referring to your dropping the gown reference. I have an Oxford education - to A-level only alas. So I am the Oxford equivalent of those you accuse me of scorning.

 

[ebandit]

ha ha!

What is your problem? You don't like music?

ha ha!.............as it is.............i really do not like music.....i like it 'quiet'

but you might be glad to hear that my first ever record was about 1970

a second hand copy of 'the freewheelin' bob dylan'

and through the 70's i saw all the bands........the noisier the better

but my problem......................something else which is better expressed

outside the clinic...............enjoy your music!

 

[JimmyFingers]

I don't. The same is you don't have to read my proof in regards to Sky doping.

I agree. It's simple

When you post some actual proof I'll ignore it then.

Until then I'll content myself with ignoring your wild speculation

 

[thehog]

When you post some actual proof I'll ignore it then.

Until then I'll content myself with ignoring your wild speculation

But you don't ignore me. You keep coming back with warm downs and reverse periodisation stories.

But you have got better. At least you're more open to the possibility of Sky doping.

I think 2013 will be very interesting with all that has gone on recently.

 

[Tinman]

I'll add it to the list. So we have:

swearing
sideburns
wearing fancy clothes
coming from Maida Vale
going to award ceremonies
having picture taken with celebrities at award shows
smoking on holiday
releasing books

and finally

winning stuff on a bike

PS.
the yellow bracelet wearing, until recently
the tax dodge, until recently
the charity foundation
the "bone idling w*nkers on the internet
the
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