Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

sorry, here you go: some nice Dutch authors just for FGL:

Belief in conspiracy theories: The influence of uncertainty and perceived morality, Van Prooijen JW (Van Prooijen, Jan-Willem); Jostmann NB (Jostmann, Nils B.) EUROPEAN JOURNAL OF SOCIAL PSYCHOLOGY Volume: 43 Issue: 1 Pages: 109-115.

That puts this a bit out of place wikimaster:

as I have said, I wouldn't be shocked if they were, recognize that it is a belief that is likely contaminated by many biases, and engage in discussion without hurling personal insults.

I wouldnt be surprised if you would be Brit after all, maybe even hosting a website where all the team sky fans can feast their joys over another great team sky win.

On van Prooijen: that is in English dude, I cant read that. Just French, Italian and German.

 

[maltiv]

The numbers add up. So should win. Flanders has nothing to so with tactics. Just numbers.

Looking forward to Sky ripping Flanders apart. Be good for the sport.

Will prove that training is harder than racing.

And obviously not with the guy who won G-W at 21. No, that'd almost be normal. They'll do it with the brit who never was top 50 in any form of one-day race before he was 25.

He's already ready with the excuse, too. "It's the first season I focus on the road completely" (which is bull****, of course). Just like Froome he repeats this excuse in every interview imaginable...

What a joke that guy is, with a 6 on the UCI suspicious list and his clear love for Armstrong, he's almost more suspicious than Froome himself!

 

[northstar]

I said informal - I personally find it of interest how people argue about Sky. There's no rule against what may personally motivate someone to engage in a forum. I am not conducting formal research.

Well of course it would be informal research. The clinic is not a controlled environment. There’s way too many crazy 'variables' here for that to happen. And I mean that in the nicest possible way…….

In view of the fact you are conducting research in the forum, it is hard to believe anything you say now.

 

[Ferminal]

Has marginal gains solved Eddy's energy intake problem yet?

 

[thehog]

And obviously not with the guy who won G-W at 21. No, that'd almost be normal. They'll do it with the brit who never was top 50 in any form of one-day race before he was 25.

He's already ready with the excuse, too. "It's the first season I focus on the road completely" (which is bull****, of course). Just like Froome he repeats this excuse in every interview imaginable...

What a joke that guy is, with a 6 on the UCI suspicious list and his clear love for Armstrong, he's almost more suspicious than Froome himself!

Don't worry after he wins Flanders we'll be told he has a "big engine" from the track.

There are hardcore weathered roadmen who tried for years to win Flanders. But failed. Apprently the G-Dawg can roll up with zero experience and win it. It's that easy. Just put your team on the front for 225km then attack with 5km to go. Simples.

Enough to make a grown man cry.

 

[Ferminal]

Wait... Sky have three very strong cobbled monument riders but instead of using that to advantage they are going to drive the race along for Cancellara until the point he attacks and Geraint Thomas follows?

 

[The Hitch]

Wait... Sky have three very strong cobbled monument riders but instead of using that to advantage they are going to drive the race along for Cancellara until the point he attacks and Geraint Thomas follows?

UK Postal train up the Kwaermont By the top, 4 Sky riders and Cancellara, + Sagan to catch back up on the descent.

I kid of course

 

[Dr. Maserati]

1. Because I believe Sky is actually not doping. I think their account is plausible.
2. I am interested in the psychology of Sky detractors and I'm doing informal research on Dan Sperber's argumentative theory of reasoning in online forums.

Thats interesting.
Why limit yourself to these so called Sky detractors? Your informal research will be formally flawed if you do so as well as your bias in point one.

Because if you do want to actually understand these subjects then you need to see all their posting history. Like how almost a third of your posting history is in this thread.

 

[BroDeal]

I am interested in the psychology of Sky detractors and I'm doing informal research on Dan Sperber's argumentative theory of reasoning in online forums.

LOL. I have to save a ref to this post. It is destined to go down in forum history. Much like O.J.'s search for the real killers, we will all be wating years for masterbater's research paper. The peer review by del1962 and martinvickers will be good for a few laughs as well.

 

[Ripper]

The numbers add up. So should win. Flanders has nothing to so with tactics. Just numbers.

Looking forward to Sky ripping Flanders apart. Be good for the sport.

Will prove that training is harder than racing.

Sarcasm or smoking something?

 

[badboygolf16v]

Sagan will win (I also think he's clean).

For reference, who do you think is doping?

 

[del1962]

Thats interesting.
Why limit yourself to these so called Sky detractors? Your informal research will be formally flawed if you do so as well as your bias in point one.

Because if you do want to actually understand these subjects then you need to see all their posting history. Like how almost a third of your posting history is in this thread.

To be fair almost a third of the clinic's posting these days is in this thread

Anyway, there are the troofers who bekleive their is a conspiracy between the UCI and SKy, and they make up a proportion of the clinic's clientele, and they jave got a screw loose. I make no aopologies for posting this, of course they come back with Sky met ASO, Sky met the UCI, so what, those people are reading something into it that is not their, they are cult like in their group thinking.

I accept that these troofers need seperating from other that think sky are doping though these others are most likely wrong.

 

[Ferminal]

It's nothing about Sky per se, rather the UCI having a proven record of going out of their way to ensure top riders/teams avoid doping controversy to the point where they actively interfere with the anti-doping process.

 

[Dear Wiggo]

I accept that these troofers need seperating from other that think sky are doping though these others are most likely wrong.

Do you think anyone in the pro peloton dopes?

 

[Fearless Greg Lemond]

11-03-2000
Departure: Nice, France
Arrival: Col d'Eze, France
Distance: 10 km
1. Andreas Kloden (All) en 20'06"

10-03-2013
Departure: Nice, France
Arrival: Col d'Èze, France
Distance: 9,6 km
1 1 Richie PORTE SKY PROCYCLING 00:19:16.820

That is only 50 seconds faster than epo Andreas, with 400 metres shorter.

Care to respond to that del1962?

 

[willbick]

it is impossible to make a meaningful comparison, so many factors are different. anyway, how do u know kloden was dosed up for this race?

 

[Zam_Olyas]

"G" gets alot of hype by the sky supporters.. Won junior roubaix.2nd on the cobble stage in 2010, 2011, 2nd in Dwars, 10th in Flanders as a domestique, crashed alot.

Personally i dont think it's enough but hey Sky is the limit for sky.

 

[thehog]

"G" gets alot of hype by the sky supporters.. Won junior roubaix.2nd on the cobble stage in 2010, 2011, 2nd in Dwars, 10th in Flanders as a domestique, crashed alot.

Personally i dont think it's enough but hey Sky is the limit for sky.

Never know. He might ride away from Sagan and Fabs.

I'm sure Sky can do anything.

 

[thehog]

Looks like Evans has thrown in the towel on beating the Dawg.

"I'm going to ride the Giro. And I want to make it clear, I won’t be riding it for training but to get back to my best level," Evans told Gazzetta dello Sport during an interview at his home in Stabbio, in the Italian speaking part of southern Switzerland.

 

[ebandit]

G

Takes some riders years of riding Classics, cobbles and in kermises to learn how to win a race like Flanders.

who was the team sky rider that looked so much like G in other cobbled races

last year and earlier this season?

nothing would make me happier than seeing G win the ronde however i'm sure

he will miss out to a charged spartacus / stronger chavenel /tougher sagan etc

Mark L

 

[The Hitch]

who was the team sky rider that looked so much like G in other cobbled races

last year and earlier this season?

Wasn't g. He didn't do cobbles last year.

 

[ebandit]

thanks!

Wasn't g. He didn't do cobbles last year.

thanks! hitch i forgot G concentrated on the track in 2012........but my point
stands .........it's not as though he never ridden such races before

Mark L

 

[thehog]

who was the team sky rider that looked so much like G in other cobbled races

last year and earlier this season?

nothing would make me happier than seeing G win the ronde however i'm sure

he will miss out to a charged spartacus / stronger chavenel /tougher sagan etc

Mark L

Last year? Huh? Think that was in your Sky fantasy. G-Dawg was riding track last year.

Which apparently is the perfect build-up to winning Flanders!

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Last year? Huh? Think that was in your Sky fantasy. G-Dawg was riding track last year.

Which apparently is the perfect build-up to winning Flanders!

Yes because all he has done is race track this year in preparation for Flanders.

 

[ebandit]

ok junior

Last year? Huh? Think that was in your Sky fantasy. G-Dawg was riding track last year.

Which apparently is the perfect build-up to winning Flanders!

yes! i forgot 2012 was track year

did G not ride the junior roubaix race? it's not as though he is a stranger

to such races as suggested by yourself

Mark L