Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[will10]

Hoggie, I think it is obvious to all you are a big fan of dopers, which seems to be why you don't like Sky, being clean (probably) and all that

"probably"? You're not convinced?

 

[will10]

I have nightmares about Froome-dog.

He will put 3 minutes into Contador in the ITT then drop him by a minute in the mountains.

If he wins by anything less than 10 minutes he didn't dope enough.

Froome-dawg will go full ***. Correction. He will go super-full *** come July.

I'm not sure the offical Skoda team-cars will be able to keep up.

Ricardo Froome!

This is ridiculous, Hog.... you know full well that AC will be ready.

 

[MatParker117]

I have nightmares about Froome-dog.

He will put 3 minutes into Contador in the ITT then drop him by a minute in the mountains.

If he wins by anything less than 10 minutes he didn't dope enough.

Froome-dawg will go full ***. Correction. He will go super-full *** come July.

I'm not sure the offical Skoda team-cars will be able to keep up.

Ricardo Froome!

Sky use Jags.

 

[DirtyWorks]

Lienders at Rabbo

Rasmussen telling all in regards to Lienders in Dutch court. EPO, centrifuge shares, UCI hiding doping issues and more. And somehow, those things weren't repeated at Sky in 2012?

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=1875&page=65

Wait, wait there's an explanation for it all. Sky's 2012 was squeaky clean. Marginal gains and bike technology is the difference.

Are there any pretenders left that believe the 2012 Grand Tour team wasn't doped and won so many events without assistance from the UCI?

 

[thehog]

Rasmussen telling all in regards to Lienders in Dutch court. EPO, centrifuge shares, UCI hiding doping issues and more. And somehow, those things weren't repeated at Sky in 2012?

http://forum.cyclingnews.com/showthread.php?t=1875&page=65

Lienders comes over to Sky to do what else exactly?

Saddle sores.

 

[D-Queued]

Saddle sores.

I hear you can get a backdated TUE for that.

Dave.

 

[SundayRider]

Wonder what the response of the 'Sky are clean' brigade will be...

 

[the sceptic]

Wonder what the response of the 'Sky are clean' brigade will be...

maybe the have some saddle sore scientists that can explain everything to us uneducated fools.

 

[bobbins]

Sky will keep control of the media and the Leinders trial won't affect them at all. They have control over the Murdoch group in the uk plus it seems the telegraph and the usual suspects such as Richard moor are so tame that they won't date breath a word of this trial and the implications on the zero tolerance team.

If someone with a blank chequebook asked you how to win the tour, any way, the sky blueprint of buying influence, a dodgy doc, dodgy riders and then buy the press to write the fairy tale for you.

I thout they were clean but now have no doubt.

 

[sniper]

the sad thing is the Dutch media aren't connecting any dots wrt Sky.

all you hear is how the Boogerd generation is burdening the present hard-working clean generation of Gesink et al.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Wonder what the response of the 'Sky are clean' brigade will be...

There's nothing really new here, just Rasmussen fleshing out what has already been leaked about Leinders' role at Rabo.

And you can find my response to that earlier in the thread.

Since apparently there's a brigade and I'm guessing I'm one of them

 

[thehog]

There's nothing really new here, just Rasmussen fleshing out what has already been leaked about Leinders' role at Rabo.

And you can find my response to that earlier in the thread.

Since apparently there's a brigade and I'm guessing I'm one of them

Nothing new. Just reenforcing what sham the hiring of Dr. Blood was at Sky.

But he cleaned his act up before joining Sky, right Jimmy?

 

[mastersracer]

Nothing new. Just reenforcing what sham the hiring of Dr. Blood was at Sky.

But he cleaned his act up before joining Sky, right Jimmy?

If Sky management are the diabolical masterminds you claim them to be, do you think they'd actually run a doping program through Leinders? These programs aren't very complex (riders can do their own), and the doctors implicated, including Ferrari, aren't exactly evil geniuses.

 

[sniper]

If Sky management are the diabolical masterminds you claim them to be, do you think they'd actually run a doping program through Leinders? These programs aren't very complex (riders can do their own), and the doctors implicated, including Ferrari, aren't exactly evil geniuses.

they aren't very complex, until people start dying.

 

[mattghg]

Will Leinders be called to testify?

 

[mastersracer]

they aren't very complex, until people start dying.

how many documented deaths have been linked to micro-dosing doping programs?

 

[sniper]

how many documented deaths have been linked to micro-dosing doping programs?

ok, forgte about that. we'll probably never know whether txema died naturally or not, although I have my doubts.

anyway, nobody claims leinders was the sole mastermind.
but it's beyond reasonable doubt that he was brought in to refine and optimize the program in whatever possible way, not to put cream on people's anusses.

 

[thehog]

If Sky management are the diabolical masterminds you claim them to be, do you think they'd actually run a doping program through Leinders? These programs aren't very complex (riders can do their own), and the doctors implicated, including Ferrari, aren't exactly evil geniuses.

Masterminds?

Just good old fashion blood doping.

Nothing new.

But of course it's warming down isn't it?

 

[thehog]

Masterminds?

Just good old fashion blood doping.

Nothing new.

But of course it's warming down isn't it?

http://nos.nl/video/482051-hele-interview-rasmussen.html

The Chicken video is excellent. CSC gets a good mention there as well as Dr. Blood Lienders.

"He put the needle in my arm"

 

[thehog]

http://nos.nl/video/482051-hele-interview-rasmussen.html

The Chicken video is excellent. CSC gets a good mention I there as well as Dr. Blood Lienders.

"He put the needle in my arm"

"I have a lot of faith in Geert Leinders"

 

[mastersracer]

"I have a lot of faith in Geert Leinders"

it's actually much easier to just buy talent and throw $ at the sport. And laugh all you want at marginal gains, but even the French are starting to buy into that.

 

[the sceptic]

it's actually much easier to just buy talent and throw $ at the sport. And laugh all you want at marginal gains, but even the French are starting to buy into that.

And where does the good doctor fit into this fairytale?

 

[Bexon30]

"I have a lot of faith in Geert Leinders"

Wow, Geert sounds as shady as hell. And scarily organised. Sir Dave will be paying him briefcases full of Euros for his out of hours work this year.

 

[thehog]

it's actually much easier to just buy talent and throw $ at the sport. And laugh all you want at marginal gains, but even the French are starting to buy into that.

"He put the needle in my arm"

"He infused the blood"

"He injected me with EPO"

"Blood doping? Yeah it works!"

 

[mastersracer]

"He out the needle in my arm"

"He infused the blood"

"He injected me with EPO"

"Blood doping? Yeah it works!"

Sorry, I didn't realize Rasmussen rode for Team Sky...