Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[thehog]

Lol skybot shelf number 13965-13 rides entire peloton off his wheels.

Is this the new version 2.2 or 2.23?

 

[Grand Tourist]

And once he had been exposed to Sky they got rid of him. Sadly it seems that he didn't reveal his dubious history when recruited ........ People mislead others quite often when they want a job! So I see nothing at all sinister in this, unless off course, you are trying to scratch around and make a case .....

Pro Cycling is a very small world. The idea that Sky were 'none the wiser' about Leinders bearing in mind his provenance as a Doctor for a notoriously dirty team is simply laughable.

 

[ChewbaccaD]

Lol skybot shelf number 13965-13 rides entire peloton off his wheels.

What is happening right now (the day after the rest day...) is ridiculous. All of a sudden, the entire Sky team are better climbers than the rest of the peloton. Nothing suspicious about that....

 

[thehog]

Is this the new version 2.2 or 2.23?

I think the Borge had a firmware upgrade with decent control enabled.

 

[burning]

These trains love their rest days...

It is necessary to lubricate and prepare the wagons before moving

 

[Lanark]

All below 6.0 w/kg, nothing to see here.

 

[Tinman]

But Wiggo dropping off the pace right now.... Special Colombian coffee mix?

 

[mikehammer67]

David Walsh @DavidWalshST 1h

Sky's pace going to cause carnage by stage end

ok.........

 

[Tinman]

Two groups of riders here. Hesjedal clearly in the clean group. Uran hardly sweating riding away at the front.

 

[mikehammer67]

But Wiggo dropping off the pace right now.... Special Colombian coffee mix?

mixup with the name tags on the 'special soup'

 

[Bala Verde]

Is this the new version 2.2 or 2.23?

OxyPow version 9843 patch 238 installed which is designed to preserve shelf life of units.

 

[mattghg]

David Walsh @DavidWalshST 1h

Sky's pace going to cause carnage by stage end

ok.........

He's right, isn't he?

 

[ChewbaccaD]

I take back my comment. Not nearly as ridiculous as it seemed like it was going to be.

 

[the sceptic]

Wiggins cant even do 6.0w/kg in a straight line anymore. Marginal gains stopped working?

 

[Ferminal]

Two groups of riders here. Hesjedal clearly in the clean group. Uran hardly sweating riding away at the front.

If Hesjedal is clean this year...

 

[andy1234]

Two groups of riders here. Hesjedal clearly in the clean group. Uran hardly sweating riding away at the front.

And some riders clearly doping at the start, then clearly not doping by the end of the stage.
Or something like that......

I think the blood bags were infused on the rest day, then taken back out towards the end of the stage, so that things looked normal.
Clever....very clever....

 

[Froome19]

Two groups of riders here. Hesjedal clearly in the clean group. Uran hardly sweating riding away at the front.

Yes, very observant of you.

 

[Zam_Olyas]

Can we talk about Santambrogio here?

 

[brilleaben]

Can we talk about Santambrogio here?

It's amazing how a guy in a shirt like that, can be that anonymous.

 

[thehog]

I take back my comment. Not nearly as ridiculous as it seemed like it was going to be.

Yes they imploded. They do alright on the inclines. Step stuff borgs don't work.

 

[andy1234]

Yes they imploded. They do alright on the inclines. Step stuff borgs don't work.

F@@k me, you are really on to something here, Hoggo.
The dope that Sky are using is only effective on long inclines, not the steeper stuff.

If only there was some form of doping that increased physical performance on all types of roads...That would be much more useful.

 

[mikehammer67]

F@@k me, you are really on to something here, Hoggo.
The dope that Sky are using is only effective on long inclines, not the steeper stuff.

If only there was some form of doping that increased physical performance on all types of roads...That would be much more useful.

it's called EPO in case you hadn heard the news

 

[Tinman]

it's called EPO in case you hadn heard the news

Sadly Sky are not the only ones. From today's stage all we can say for sure is that Garmin seems to be doing it clean. IMHO.

 

[Miburo]

This is probably one of the most believable sky wins.

Uran was already many years ago a hugh talent.

Tour of germany 2007 he was already with the best but then crashed pretty hard, i think?

 

[Franklin]

You may share my name but that is about all. What you post is your personal opinion which is not based on any facts.

Considering you now dispute facts you have made yourself ridiculous.

1. wiggins said the things I pointed out. You denyy reality.
2. The statistics about doping in cycling is crystal clear. You deny reality
3. Englishmen have been caught doping. Your example of 1960 is so sad that I feel for your pain. David Millar is a name who probably makes your heart contract as it shows how ridiculous your Nationalist pride is. You deny reality.

A completely serious question: How can you say I don't post facts when they are indisputable? Is your faith so big that it blots out everything you can't align with your faith?

Which is the trend throughout this thread. People making assumptions from the point of view of their own prejudices and that's about all. It goes nowhere it helps no one.

Ianfra, I just established I'm the one with the facts, you are the one witgh prejudices.

I demand an appology for a horrible slam against my position.

As for Sky, though I may be a bit ambivalent towards the Sky Corporation I have to reluctantly agree that they have been great for British Cycling, helping to raise its profile as whole and helping the sport from the grass roots upwards. That is not to say that they are beyond criticism - I have seen enøugh of politics in my time (and in Thailand and Myanmar at the moment where people criticising commercial organisations for, say, environmental reasons have been murdered) to know that whatever 'good works' you do does not put you beyond scrutiny.

So basically you have no idea what they do, acknowledge they could well be doping... yet you know they are clean?

But I have to say from my experience that doping is not rife in British cycle sport and where it has been, it has been stamped on (Ken Hill for example in the 60s). Within the UK sport I know which riders I suspect (but I would not name them in public as I have no evidence) and I know which riders are clean.
Those of you who have not been as involved in the UK scene as I have, speak from a very shaky foundation.

I know, a guy like David Millar was more of a Frenchman.

Sean Yates is best budides with a drug courier because he makes a fantastic jambala.

That's up to you. But what I have constantly asked here is not to make accusations without evidence. That would be the decent thing to do. If not you are probably just libeling people which, to me, is as bad as cheating people by doping whilst racing.

I demand an apology and a full acknowledgemnt that I use facts. I also expect a public admission that you have ZERO evidence for your own position.

And to drive that one down with Thor's hammer. My facts are verifiable. Your accusations about me are indisputably wrong. Seems a few degree worse than those things you try to deflect without zero evidence from your side.

How's them apple's Ianfra? Dare to acknowledge you are dead wrong or are you just words?