Team Ineos (Formerly the Sky thread)

[Don't be late Pedro]

Just like jingoistic Armstrong fans, there is a hardcore group of jingoistic Sky deniers who will turn themselves into pretzels to keep the faith in the ridiculousness of Froome, Wiggins, and Porte. It is hilarious to watch. History does repeat itself.

Watch out, watch out BroStrong is about. When are you starting that Horner thread about his comments about Armstrong? After all, you seem interested in the comparisons with Sky riders and Horner. Here is an ideal opportunity.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

While that might explain Horner, it does not work for Sky, the most tactically inept team in the World Tour. I guess marginal gains don't work for race savvy.

Maybe they don't. And certainly their one day tactics have a left a lot to be desired.

 

[JimmyFingers]

It takes more than training to win races in the age of dope.

But I thought Wiggins wasn't bothering training?

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

I almost thought this thread had died because noone believed anymore

People were having a perfectly interesting discussion but then the usual suspects cannot help themselves.

Funny, how they have shown themselves to be such hypocrites.

If people are so deluded then you must be the bigger fool to keep trying to convince them. But according to you no one from Sky has ever gotten a result outside of July, right?

 

[BroDeal]

But I thought Wiggins wasn't bothering training?

Buck up little camper. Maybe Wiggins will get tired of being a bone idle w@nker and once again take the dope express train rather than the regular dope commuter bus.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Buck up little camper. Maybe Wiggins will get tired of being a bone idle w@nker and once again take the dope express train rather than the regular dope commuter bus.

He will be hitting his peak in about 6/7 years.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Buck up little camper. Maybe Wiggins will get tired of being a bone idle w@nker and once again take the dope express train rather than the regular dope commuter bus.

Like in 2012 then? Or he was training then? Training and doping, unlike this season he's just doping, right?

 

[BroDeal]

He will be hitting his peak in about 6/7 years.

To peak that late takes talent, something Wiggins never displayed on the road until his UCI passport was more indicative of doping than Lance Armstrong's.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

To peak that late takes talent, something Wiggins never displayed on the road until his UCI passport was more indicative of doping than Lance Armstrong's.

Ah, right so you are saying that talent is the driving factor when you are that age. Ok.

And still a fan of Armstrong I see.

Keep calm and keep digging....

I noticed in the Chris Squared thread once challenged with facts you tried baiting then false information and when that failed.. well you just stopped posting.

I still chuckle to myself that you posted as fact that if you toss a coin enough times that the number of heads and tails will balance out. You should go to Vegas and clean up.

 

[bobbins]

In time, sky's secrets will leak out. Some already have. It seems to me that what they are doing is getting out quicker than usps secrets did so it'll be sooner rather than later.

That 'Year in Yellow' doco will be interesting second time round.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Some already have.

You got any examples for that?

 

[JimmyFingers]

In time, sky's secrets will leak out. Some already have. It seems to me that what they are doing is getting out quicker than usps secrets did so it'll be sooner rather than later.

That 'Year in Yellow' doco will be interesting second time round.

I'd say the complete opposite is true, unless you have some actual secrets to describe, or are we back in the realms of 'almost'?

 

[BroDeal]

Ah, right so you are saying that talent is the driving factor when you are that age. Ok.

Horner is proving what talent can do, even at a late age.

And still a fan of Armstrong I see.

This is so beyond clueless it is funny. It shows an ignorance that goes straight into stupidity. Really? Are you that dumb?

I should put this into my sig. "Pedro to BroDeal: I see you ares till a fan of Armstrong." LOL.

 

[peloton]

And the Giro is a 3 week stage race is it not? The accusation wasn't very specific, just stage races, almost all won by Sky.

Giro is a GT. It wasn't an accusation, just a fact that Sky dominated the early stage races, not to even mention the absurdity that the Tour was.

As I said I think Sky have looked pretty human this season, outclassed in the classics, outgunned in the Giro, outclassed and outgunned in the Vuelta and really only a monumental individual performance won the Tour for them.

Pretty funny.

 

[JimmyFingers]

Giro is a GT. It wasn't an accusation, just a fact that Sky dominated the early stage races, not to even mention the absurdity that the Tour was.

You said they won almost all the stage races leading up to the Tour, quantifying it it was much less than half. Now you're saying the Giro isn't a stage race it's a GT, which is semantics at best and really a moot point generally.

As for the Tour it was an individual achievement, rather than the collective one of 2012, unless you want to claim the Sky team 'almost' controlled the entire tour too?

Overstatement is fun, but it does tend to ignore facts, doesn't it?

Yes Sky are the number one team, wow thanks for googling that.

 

[the sceptic]

luckily Jimmy thinks Katusha and Movistar are clean too, otherwise it would be hard to explain how Sky are so much better than everyone

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

This is so beyond clueless it is funny. It shows an ignorance that goes straight into stupidity. Really? Are you that dumb?

I should put this into my sig. "Pedro to BroDeal: I see you ares till a fan of Armstrong." LOL.

You favour Armstrong in any argument with Sky such is your dislike for them. I am guessing you were a big fan at one point?

Funny you were crying about doping spoiling racing and yet here you are cheering on Horner. For some reason you think that will 'show up the SkyBots'?

You talk a good game but switch as soon as it suits your position.

Why not go back to the Chris Squared thread and address the facts. The reason? It's because you can't. You just go silent and disappear. Then up you pop with the 'marginal gains' mantra somewhere else. You are like the Dennis Menchov of the forum... After one lacklustre verbal attack, you proceed to fall on your face and are then never heard of again for the rest of the conversation.

People were having a reasonable conversation here but you could not wait to jump in and start trolling. It seems to be your trademark. People come onto this forum calling themselves things like 'Wiggos Right Ear' and after 3 posts they will suck you in like a child. You don't even seem aware that they are winding you up. And you call other people idots?

Funny, I am quite able to have reasonable chats with other people on this forum even if they have different opinions.

Like I said keep digging. Though sadly I think you'll never dig yourself out of your rank hypocrisy. Good luck though.

 

[maltiv]

Pretty funny.

He said that Sky was almost a one-man team this year, which isn't far from the truth based on the pictures you posted. Froome has earned more than 1/3 of their world tour points this year. In fact, if you take away Froome and Porte, they're left with only 500 points (and 14 victories), which isn't exactly impressive...

 

[peloton]

You said they won almost all the stage races leading up to the Tour, quantifying it it was much less than half. Now you're saying the Giro isn't a stage race it's a GT, which is semantics at best and really a moot point generally.

They won more stage races than any other team. I should have wrote dominated some instead of almost, my bad.
Giro is not a "normal" stage race, now is it?

As for the Tour it was an individual achievement, rather than the collective one of 2012, unless you want to claim the Sky team 'almost' controlled the entire tour too?

Yeah, Porte was no help at the Tour...

Overstatement is fun, but it does tend to ignore facts, doesn't it?

Fact is they dominated some of the early stage races.

Yes Sky are the number one team, wow thanks for googling that.

They have more points at this time than they had last year, and you claimed they looked "human" this year. Go figure.

 

[peloton]

He said that Sky was almost a one-man team this year, which isn't far from the truth based on the pictures you posted. Froome has earned more than 1/3 of their world tour points this year. In fact, if you take away Froome and Porte, they're left with only 500 points (and 14 victories), which isn't exactly impressive...

How is that different from Wiggo/Froome from last year?

 

[BroDeal]

You favour Armstrong in any argument with Sky such is your dislike for them. I am guessing you were a big fan at one point?

Clueless. What a clown.

Funny you were crying about doping spoiling racing and yet here you are cheering on Horner.

Thick as well.

Like I said keep digging. Though sadly I think you'll never dig yourself out of your rank hypocrisy. Good luck though.

Thick as two short planks.

Go on with that BroDeal is an Armstrong fan charge. I'm sure you'll get far with that one.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Clueless. What a clown.



Thick as well.



Thick as two short planks.

Go on with that BroDeal is an Armstrong fan charge. I'm sure you'll get far with that one.

Oooh, cutting.

I am happy to wait for you to start backing up the things you say rather than making up stuff or just baiting people. You can't. And this is another example of it.

Where is your constant criticism of Horner's Armstrong comments in the Horner thread? Or the Chris Squared on. The latter thread completely back fired on you. You were clearly hoping that some people would come out and back Froome as being clean and Horner as doping but only one person did. But then people started showing support for Horner and you were stuck between a rock and a hard place.

Good luck with the digging Denny.

 

[DirtyWorks]

I'd say the complete opposite is true, unless you have some actual secrets to describe, or are we back in the realms of 'almost'?

Haha. What year is this again? It feels like 2004. Never tested positive is a reliable data point now?

 

[del1962]

Lets face it BroDeal, your prescence in this thread is purely to bait, not debate, as was the whole premise of your Chris Squared Thread.

And Peleton, you overstated your case on the stage race, but instead of admitting your where wrong, you are just trying to wiggle your way out of it, round where I am from we have a saying, and that is if your in a hole stop digging.

 

[Don't be late Pedro]

Haha. What year is this again? It feels like 2004. Never tested positive is a reliable data point now?

That is clearly not what he is saying. Someone said some of Sky's secrets have been leaked and he was asking what these were? How you get to you conclusion I have no idea?