the sceptic said:
You look ugly. Don´t you have a more favourable pic of yourself?
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ferryman said:Heh heh looks like a fist fight..remember the rules though lads. Gloves up, nothing below the belt and defend yourself at all times (within forum rules obviously). I really don't want to step in to stop it Bon chance.
mikeoneill said:would that not have been a conflict of interest for Dr Peters
..employee of British cycling
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..member of TUE panel UK sport
FoxxyBrown1111 said:Why rules? I wanna step down to the level of this low lifer...
FoxxyBrown1111 said:Why rules? I wanna step down to the level of this low lifer...
20SecondsToComply said:And the 'funding' of so-called amateur athletes so that they can train full time. UK Lottery fundign was increased significantly in the years before 2012.
ferryman said:Catch weight Foxxy. It could mean a step up or down for your opponent
the sceptic said:your posts are in a gray area at the moment. Be careful so you dont catch a ban.
Benotti69 said:We have a pretty damn good idea what is going on behind the scenes in the sport. The players of cycling are the same from the 70s, 80s, 90s and 00s where doping was and still is part of the fabric. When and where did they change? I dont see that moment where there was a change, where the majority said no more doping or where anti doping became so tough to beat that the risk was no longer worth taking.
Remember 1996 Mapei, 1, 2 and 3 at Roubaix, DS Lefevere now running OPQS
Domo farm Frites 2002 Paris Roubaix, 1,2 and 3 podium, DS Lefevere now running OPQS. Servais Knaven who won is now a DS at Sky.
Where did the culture of doping end? It didn't.
SundayRider said:
nslckevin said:But you don't. You have assumptions and guesses but you don't really KNOW. You may very well be right. I don't know. But that's my point. You don't KNOW either.
That is what I hate. A bunch of people who've never been closer to the pro peloton than watching on TV or maybe on the roadside who KNOW what's going on behind the scenes. I'm in the same boat. I'm just not arrogant enough to assume that I KNOW what is really going on.
It is possible that Servais Knaven was doped to the gills when he won, but is now a true believer in clean cycling. It's also possible that he is supplying drugs to the whole team. Do you have any evidence of what he's actually doing right NOW or are you just assuming (*** u me) that he's running a dirty team?
nslckevin said:A bunch of people who've never been closer to the pro peloton than watching on TV or maybe on the roadside who KNOW what's going on behind the scenes.
nslckevin said:But you don't. You have assumptions and guesses but you don't really KNOW. You may very well be right. I don't know. But that's my point. You don't KNOW either.
That is what I hate. A bunch of people who've never been closer to the pro peloton than watching on TV or maybe on the roadside who KNOW what's going on behind the scenes. I'm in the same boat. I'm just not arrogant enough to assume that I KNOW what is really going on.
It is possible that Servais Knaven was doped to the gills when he won, but is now a true believer in clean cycling. It's also possible that he is supplying drugs to the whole team. Do you have any evidence of what he's actually doing right NOW or are you just assuming (*** u me) that he's running a dirty team?
Bannockburn said:There are a fair amount of people here who are much closer to things than you may realize.
nslckevin said:I listened to a really interesting podcast with Michael Hutchinson the other day. It's called "Cycling Time Trial Podcast" and he was a guest.
During the course of the interview he talked about what team GB was doing to prepare for the 2012 Olympic team pursuit. First they assumed that it was take a world record time of 3:50 to win the gold medal. They they back calculated all of the power/speed requirements for EACH PERSON on the team. i.e., the first guy was going to take these pulls at these speeds at these power level's. Same for the 2nd, 3rd and 4th guys. Each person had a different set of requirements to fit and each person was on a similar but different training schedule.
That I think is an example of just how seriously they took winning their home Olympics. Take a ginormous budget, home olympic motivation, quality riders who are freed by their teams to focus on team pursuit and that level of detail and it's not terribly surprising that they won the gold medal is it?
Could they all have been doped to the gills? Who knows. But I hate this culture of assuming that any good performance is practically proof of "obvious doping" without anybody really knowing what is going on behind the scenes (non-doping).
I don't think that we should just assume that everybody is telling the truth about not doping, but that is no better than just assuming that they ARE doping. Both are just lazy thought processes.
Bannockburn said:There are a fair amount of people here who are much closer to things than you may realize.
elduggo said:they also hid their wheels in wheel bags so the French couldn't see them
Digger said:they also faked a crash so as to get a restart.
RobbieCanuck said:Even though he is racist, his team does not practice racism in hiring coaches and players.
SafeBet said:OT but that's debatable. You might remember Elgin Baylor's lawsuit: http://www.complex.com/sports/2014/...d-sterling-sued-by-elgin-baylor-for-employmen
Digger said:they also faked a crash so as to get a restart.
RobbieCanuck said:You are missingBenotti69's...
nslckevin said:But you don't. You have assumptions and guesses but you don't really KNOW. You may very well be right. I don't know. But that's my point. You don't KNOW either.
nslckevin said:That is what I hate. A bunch of people who've never been closer to the pro peloton than watching on TV or maybe on the roadside who KNOW what's going on behind the scenes. I'm in the same boat. I'm just not arrogant enough to assume that I KNOW what is really going on.
nslckevin said:It is possible that Servais Knaven was doped to the gills when he won, but is now a true believer in clean cycling. It's also possible that he is supplying drugs to the whole team. Do you have any evidence of what he's actually doing right NOW or are you just assuming (*** u me) that he's running a dirty team?
Sky High said:Great post. Deserves being repeated every single day in the clinic until everyone finally gets it.