For sure but I think his form will worsen the next couple days because of this crash. He did seem okay afterwards, but was racing on adrenaline.Hopefully he's sore but even "re-locating" your should will hurt the next day. He looked to be riding OK after. What really sucks is JV blew by him and were over a minute away before realizing what had happened. At that point there really is no choice but to keep Vingo closer to Pogacar. If I were DS I'd let Primoz free lance on the climbs to force a Pogi response. If Jonas couldn't hang with him that pretty much sums up the Tour.
Comparing with Sky is useless, mainly because Sky always had the best GC rider or the top favourite for the parcours, whereas JV have the Slovenian Heras and the Danish Peraud. Enjoyable riders, but in the end extremely average.The team should have been built around Roglic this year. Absolutely no doubt in my mind. Bringing Vingeggard as a coleader and wout van aert as a leader is so stupid.
Not even Team Sky at their peak would dare to bring a guy like Van Aert to the Tour. Nor 2 coleaders. And they were competing against Bardet, Quintana, Aru, Uran, Purito. Not Pogacar.
They did it in 2012 with Cavendish but quickly learned their lesson.
Every year Jumbo send a team built around Roglic to the Vuelta and they succeed. They destroy the race, with Roglic the leader.I don't understand their obsession with multiple leaders in the Tour. They wanted to do it in 2020 with Roglic, Dumoulin and Kruijsvijk. They wanted to do it in 2018 with Roglic and Kruijswijk. Makes no sense.
I would send Vingegaard to the Giro. He can win a grand tour there, if he is so good. He has not won a GT before.
Roglic should have a team around him for the Tour. Kruijswijk, Kuss, Laporte, Van hoojdonck, Benoot, Oomen, and then one of Dennis, Gesink, Bouwman or Vingegaard (after giro, if the Denmark grand depart is so important)
Van Aert should be focused on winning monuments. He was signed to do that and has underperformed slightly despite his extreme talent. I wouldn't say he is super selfish, but his presence in the team leads to something being off
2 leaders on a cobble stage is so dumb. You protect your leader the whole stage. He punctures or crashes and the whole team is there for him, they believe in him , they support him, motivate him. When Roglic crashed, he needed his team, and they were nowhere near him. Instead they were helping this Vingegaard who never won a WT Stage race
Look how Arkea look after Nairoman, Bora looks after Vlasov, even Movistar with Mas
Roglic has beaten pretty much everyone on grand tours, even Pogacar. Vingegaard didn't even manage put time into Carapaz in the mountains at all last year. That's right, he couldn't drop Carapaz. Just made time in the 2 long time trials. Meanwhile Roglic has cracked Climber Carapaz multiple times in the mountains. Because he is the only rider close to Pogacar's level
Roglic joined the team in 2015 , a team languishing in the shadow of Rabobank, changing sponsors every year, and within 5 years had won them grand tours and turned them into the top gc team in the world.
He was the top UCI ranked rider for 2 years straight and has beaten Pogacar on multiple occasions. He is one of only 2 riders to have beaten Pogacar in a GT, the other being 42yo Valverde who is in recovery from a crash.
Roglic didn't lose time to Pogacaar in the Tour de France in the Mountains ever. Vingegaard lost 4 minutes.
Roglic deserved the support. If 5 of his teammates aren't working for Vingegaard in that moment, he probably doesn't crashed in the hay bale
Comparing them to Heras and Peruad proves my point that Roglic should have the full team support. Heras won 4 GTs, Peraud got 1 lucky podium. To call Roglic 'extremely average' is embarrassing.Comparing with Sky is useless, mainly because Sky always had the best GC rider or the top favourite for the parcours, whereas JV have the Slovenian Heras and the Danish Peraud. Enjoyable riders, but in the end extremely average.
Also the comparison between Cavendish and van Aert is terrible. Cavendish can go fast for 200m in maybe 25% of the stages, whereas van Aert can go fast for over 100km in 95% of the stages. The latter can be helpful for GC leaders, as shown before. The former needs help to not OTL.
They could, maybe should have done this. Or they could go on try something glorious and maybe fail. But the attempt was very entertaining and it's also about the sponsor getting time on air.Ok, I get that on paper today was a good stage for a break so I don't see an issue with Van Aert trying to force one.
But once it was just 3 of them, there should have been a call to wait once past the intermediate sprint.
Exactly, the Vuelta. That is as high as the ceiling will get for Roglic. Send him to the Giro and the Vuelta next year, and keep the Tour open for the above average riders on the team.Comparing them to Heras and Peruad proves my point that Roglic should have the full team support. Heras won 4 GTs, Peraud got 1 lucky podium. To call Roglic 'extremely average' is embarrassing.
Van Aert shouldn't be in the race, because he's too busy doing stupid attacks for the cameras and taking 20 green jersey points when it negatively impacts his team leader.
And I was very impressed by Van Aert work yesterday and don't think he is super selfish. But he just gets too excited doing his own thing all the time. He seems just not very intelligent and too ambitious to fit into the teams goal in this race, and his presence makes things too complicated. Look in the vuelta, no van aert, team has one goal, and they dominate the race. Instead of dominating stage 4 and capitulation the next day