The 2014 CQ Ranking Manager Thread

[HelgeBlendet]

Completly ignored Van Den Broek...

 

[del1962]

Probably not worth it yeah.

I see you got Porte and Contador too. I was hoping there wouldnt be anyone else with that combo. Guess that was wishful thinking.

Contador seemed to be too good value to neglect, I am not sure about Porte though, but if he has a good Giro he will probably be worth it.

 

[del1962]

Maybe I should have considered ebh. Don't know why I didn't.

When it was pointed out how many points he had, I was suprised how low, I guess he missed many due to injury at tour.

 

[Geraint Too Fast]

No Andy huh?
I was thinking about leaving him out ... just because my dislike of his personality.

I would have picked him if I could've remembered a single performance from last year which suggested he could get back to his old level.

 

[Jancouver]

I would have picked him if I could've remembered a single performance from last year which suggested he could get back to his old level.

Fair enough. My only reason to include him was that Frank is back so there is a tiny little small chance he can improve and double his points. My expectations are somewhere around 150-200 points from Andy this year.

 

[Ferminal]

PORTE Richie
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto

Knew it

PORTE Richie 1486
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto 1228
EVANS Cadel 758
VOECKLER Thomas 632
DENNIS Rohan 394
CUNEGO Damiano 381
BASSO Ivan 380
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon 380
KISERLOVSKI Robert 371
ARU Fabio 262
TAARAMÄE Rein 143
BOONEN Tom 139
MOHORIC Matej 126
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 119
EWAN Caleb 110
SCHLECK Andy 99
KENNAUGH Peter 93
MONDORY Lloyd 83
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 61
FORMOLO Davide 59
COLLI Daniele 51
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik 42
MEYER Travis 29
DASSONVILLE Flavien 25
GORBUNOV Vladislav 18
OLIVIER Daan 17
KERN Christophe 14
BELTRAN SUAREZ Eduard Alexander 0
CHAVANEL Sébastien 0
AUGUSTYN John-Lee 0
CHAVES RUBIO Johan Esteban 0
GERDEMANN Linus 0
BISOLTI Alessandro 0

7500

 

[HelgeBlendet]

Fränk is back with him

 

[the sceptic]

Knew it

hehe. double gt podium for both would be nice.

EVANS Cadel didnt even cross my mind. Are you thinking he will become the new Horner?

 

[karlboss]

missed deadline, oh well here's mine

Gilbert 949
Boassen Hagen 743
Wiggins 623
Sanchez LL 380
Moser 353
Van Den Broeck 341
Marcato 327
Poels 321
Van Poppel D 289
Aru 272
Bennati 271
Navadauskus 242
Brajkovic 224
Goss 217
Guardini 182
Feillu R 180
Coppel 163
Morton 159
Swift 158
De Gendt 154
Boonen 139
Paterski 128
Ewan 110
Hansen LN101
Schleck A 99
Dombrowski 97
Vanendert J 96
Kennaugh 93
Brambilla 47
Kessiakoff 42
Gerdemann 0
Chaves 0
Ballan 0

 

[Afrank]

QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander 1634
STYBAR Zdenek 645
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion 568
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon 380
JUNGELS Bob 372
MOSER Moreno 353
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen 341
BARGUIL Warren 340
ELISSONDE Kenny 302
HESJEDAL Ryder 294
ARU Fabio 262
PIRAZZI Stefano 239
VILLELLA Davide 219
GOSS Matthew 217
YATES Simon 164
BOONEN Tom 139
MOHORIC Matej 126
EWAN Caleb 110
STUYVEN Jasper 108
DILLIER Silvan 106
SCHLECK Andy 99
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd 97
BARBIN Enrico 94
ZORDAN Andrea 91
LOCATELLI Stefano 70
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 61
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik 42
ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew 20
WATSON Calvin 6
HENAO MARIN Sebastian 1
QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney 0
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 0
GERDEMANN Linus 0

Looking at teams posted so far I see a couple guys I might have liked to try to make room for. Like Monfort, EBH, Hoogerland, and a few others. I was considering taking both Contador and Quintana for a long time, but in the end ended up just picking Quintana (who I felt more sure would give me more points) to give myself more points for other guys.

And happy to see I have some guys that are as of yet unique picks, hope they stay unique. Last year didn't have any so wanted a few this year. Looking forward to seeing the rest of the team and getting this competition underway. Good luck to all!

 

[karlboss]

QUINTANA ROJAS Nairo Alexander 1634
STYBAR Zdenek 645
IZAGIRRE INSAUSTI Ion 568
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon 380
JUNGELS Bob 372
MOSER Moreno 353
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen 341
BARGUIL Warren 340
ELISSONDE Kenny 302
HESJEDAL Ryder 294
ARU Fabio 262
PIRAZZI Stefano 239
VILLELLA Davide 219
GOSS Matthew 217
YATES Simon 164
BOONEN Tom 139
MOHORIC Matej 126
EWAN Caleb 110
STUYVEN Jasper 108
DILLIER Silvan 106
SCHLECK Andy 99
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd 97
BARBIN Enrico 94
ZORDAN Andrea 91
LOCATELLI Stefano 70
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 61
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik 42
ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew 20
WATSON Calvin 6
HENAO MARIN Sebastian 1
QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney 0
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 0
GERDEMANN Linus 0

Looking at teams posted so far I see a couple guys I might have liked to try to make room for. Like Monfort, EBH, Hoogerland, and a few others. I was considering taking both Contador and Quintana for a long time, but in the end ended up just picking Quintana (who I felt more sure would give me more points) to give myself more points for other guys.

And happy to see I have some guys that are as of yet unique picks, hope they stay unique. Last year didn't have any so wanted a few this year. Looking forward to seeing the rest of the team and getting this competition underway. Good luck to all!

I figured I'd aim for double on even my most expensive picks which meant quintana had to hit 3200 and be more dominant than Froome was this year. I couldn't see it happening. In the optimum team last year I don't think Froome would have made the cut despite being the highest points scorer.

 

[Karbonkel]

Wait, the opening post mentions 12AM (CET) as the deadline. Isn't that approximately ten hours from now?

 

[mc_mountain]

Wait, the opening post mentions 12AM (CET) as the deadline. Isn't that approximately ten hours from now?

deadline was midnight - midday would be 12PM.

 

[asdfgh101]

Ordered by cost

BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
URAN URAN Rigoberto
THOMAS Geraint
PHINNEY Taylor
NIZZOLO Giacomo
DENNIS Rohan
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
HESJEDAL Ryder
ARU Fabio
BRAJKOVIC Janez
POLANC Jan
VILLELLA Davide
GOSS Matthew
BATTAGLIN Enrico
VAN BAARLE Dylan
FEILLU Romain
YATES Simon
MORTON Lachlan
BOONEN Tom
MADRAZO RUIZ Angel
WELLENS Tim
KRUIJSWIJK Steven
MILLAR David
HANSEN Lasse Norman
SCHLECK Andy
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
VANENDERT Jelle
VUILLERMOZ Alexis
FERNANDEZ ANDUJAR Ruben
EDMONDSON Joshua
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
OLIVIER Daan
QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney

 

[Jancouver]

Wait, the opening post mentions 12AM (CET) as the deadline. Isn't that approximately ten hours from now?

May sound confusing for sure but 10 hours from now will be 12PM. I guess the better way to describe the deadline would be January 5th at 23:59:59 or the american way 11:59:59PM on January 5th

 

[oliveira]

my team with a bit of the rationale

(pro conti or conti team leaders)

HOOGERLAND Johnny
BATTAGLIN Enrico
FEILLU Romain
SANCHEZ GIL Luis Leon
PATERSKI Maciej
DI GREGORIO Rémy
KREDER Michel
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose
GERDEMANN Linus
BELLETTI Manuel

(injury bargains)

VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen
BOONEN Tom

(big guns! hopefully...)

URAN URAN Rigoberto
BOASSON HAGEN Edvald
CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto

(breakthrough season)

NIZZOLO Giacomo
ARU Fabio
KEUKELEIRE Jens
SWIFT Ben
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd
KENNAUGH Peter
FENN Andrew
ANACONA GOMEZ Winner Andrew

(O point big colombian engine)

CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban

(name)

QUINTANA ROJAS Dayer Uberney

(can do better lads)

BRAJKOVIC Janez
GUARDINI Andrea
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik
NUYENS Nick
MOSER Moreno
HESJEDAL Ryder
GOSS Matthew

(yes, he can)

SCHLECK Andy

 

[Afrank]

I figured I'd aim for double on even my most expensive picks which meant quintana had to hit 3200 and be more dominant than Froome was this year. I couldn't see it happening. In the optimum team last year I don't think Froome would have made the cut despite being the highest points scorer.

Don't be silly, Quintana will exceed 3200 with ease.

Seriously though, with Quintana he was one of the expensive picks who I know without a doubt is on the rise and will definitely be achieving heights of bringing in 2000+ points in the future. He's too big of a talent not too IMO.

If he can show similar (or perhaps improved) results in the smaller stage races that he showed in 2013, combined with racing the Giro, and I'm hoping also the Vuelta, I think he could definitely get 2000 or over this year. That's what I'll be hoping for. Whatever he brings in though, even if less then 2000, it should be a nice big amount.

In my dreams he has a Nibali 2013 like season. Win a bunch of the prep races, then dominate the Giro, podium Vuelta, etc.

 

[Karbonkel]

May sound confusing for sure but 10 hours from now will be 12PM. I guess the better way to describe the deadline would be January 5th at 23:59:59 or the american way 11:59:59PM on January 5th

Ah, that's how it is. Serves me right for not paying attention at school. .

 

[Jancouver]

Don't be silly, Quintana will exceed 3200 with ease.

Seriously though, with Quintana he was one of the expensive picks who I know without a doubt is on the rise and will definitely be achieving heights of bringing in 2000+ points in the future. He's too big of a talent not too IMO.

If he can show similar (or perhaps improved) results in the smaller stage races that he showed in 2013, combined with racing the Giro, and I'm hoping also the Vuelta, I think he could definitely get 2000 or over this year. That's what I'll be hoping for. Whatever he brings in though, even if less then 2000, it should be a nice big amount.

In my dreams he has a Nibali 2013 like season. Win a bunch of the prep races, then dominate the Giro, podium Vuelta, etc.

In this game you have to take risks so any super expensive rider is a risk. If he goes down in his first race, he could miss the season and you just burned 1634 points.

Also another way to look at it is: would he score more than EBH and Uran combined? Or Talansky and EBH?

I'm just trying to avoid risks, so I'm picking cheaper riders. Perhaps that's the reason I suck at this game

 

[MADRAZO]

My fairly boring team.

BOASSON Hagen Edvald 743
STYBAR Zdenek 645
VOECKLER Thomas 632
GERRANS Simon 511
BASSO Ivan 380
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin 362
MOSER Moreno 353
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen 341
MARCATO Marco 327
NORDHAUG Lars Petter 324
Hesjedal Ryder 293
ARU Fabio 262
FELLINE Fabio 252
GOSS Matthew 217
Coppel Jerome 163
Swift Ben 158
De Gendt Thomas 154
TAARAMÄE Rein 143
BOONEN Tom 139
KRUIJSWIJK Steven 125
BENNETT Sam 121
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 119
DANIEL Maxime 116
EWAN Caleb 110
Schleck Andy 99
DOMBROWSKI Joseph Lloyd 97
Vanendert Jelle 96
MONDORY Lloyd 83
Colli Danielle 51
Kessiakoff Frederik 42
Nuyens Nick 30
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 0
GERDEMANN Linus 0

 

[Jancouver]

CONTADOR VELASCO Alberto 1228
PINOT Thibaut 682
PHINNEY Taylor 475
BASSO Ivan 380
SANCHEZ Luis Leon 380
KISERLOWSKI Robert 371
MOSER Moreno 353
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen 341
BARGUIL Warren 340
POELS Wout 321
HESJEDAL Ryder 294
ARU Fabio 262
VILLELLA Davide 219
GOSS Matthew 217
HOOGERLAND Johnny 190
DE GENDT Thomas 154
BOONEN Tom 139
TAARAMÄE Rein 134
MOHORIC Matej 126
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 119
EWAN Caleb 110
SCHLECK Andy 99
DOMBROWSKI Joe 97
VANENDERT Jelle 96
KENNAUGH Peter 93
LUTSENKO Alexey 69
COBO Juan Jose 61
YATES Adam 55
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik 42
DI GREGORIO Rémy 35
CHAVES RUBIO Jhoan Esteban 0
GERDEMAN Linus 0
BALLAN Alessandro 0


7481

Pinot may be a unique pick! I was looking at him, he can climb but he cant descent and once you are scared of descending, you are screwed. It is in his head after some frightening accident in his junior years and thats why I went with Talansky as my "no so obvious GC pick".

One rider I wasnt sure about but picked him anyway was Mohoric. I dont have any expectations from him but I do like his style. He got class but riding with the big boys will be a whole new ball game for him.

 

[karlboss]

Don't be silly, Quintana will exceed 3200 with ease.

Seriously though, with Quintana he was one of the expensive picks who I know without a doubt is on the rise and will definitely be achieving heights of bringing in 2000+ points in the future. He's too big of a talent not too IMO.

If he can show similar (or perhaps improved) results in the smaller stage races that he showed in 2013, combined with racing the Giro, and I'm hoping also the Vuelta, I think he could definitely get 2000 or over this year. That's what I'll be hoping for. Whatever he brings in though, even if less then 2000, it should be a nice big amount.

In my dreams he has a Nibali 2013 like season. Win a bunch of the prep races, then dominate the Giro, podium Vuelta, etc.

I think he's safe for big points. 4-800 (on top of his cost), and being safe for those that may be better than any of a number of gambles going around. Maybe I was greedy with Gilbert in a contract year hoping he may find even his 2008/2009/2010 form he looks good, if he refinds 2011 I win

 

[Eric8-A]

Looks like some people got Quintana. I didn't even consider him. But he should beat his 2013 score easily since he'll podium in the Giro

 

[Ferminal]

In this game you have to take risks so any super expensive rider is a risk. If he goes down in his first race, he could miss the season and you just burned 1634 points.

Also another way to look at it is: would he score more than EBH and Uran combined? Or Talansky and EBH?

I'm just trying to avoid risks, so I'm picking cheaper riders. Perhaps that's the reason I suck at this game

It's not really a greater risk, if you pick three riders to try and score the same number of points you're in trouble if one of them goes down too, you might need all three to perform to get the target whereas an expensive pick you only need the one. Some riders are bound to underperform due to misadventure or just being overestimated, gotta pick the ones you are most confident in regardless of their cost, of course there is heaps of luck involved too.

I guess it's a points of failure v redundancy argument. If you pick 33 riders all 200-300 you have more points of failure but have great redundancy. If you go expensive with a few picks and then fill the rest with cheapies then you have fewer crucial points of failure but no backup if one of those goes down. So risks either way.

 

[manafana]

Should have included Linus and didn't.

URAN URAN Rigoberto 742
PINOT Thibaut 682
WIGGINS Bradley 623
PHINNEY Taylor 475
ACEVEDO CALLE Janier Alexis 405
DENNIS Rohan 394
BASSO Ivan 380
KISERLOVSKI Robert 371
ATAPUMA HURTADO Jhon Darwin 362
TEN DAM Laurens 358
VAN DEN BROECK Jurgen 341
JEANNESSON Arnold 287
MARKUS Barry 209
YATES Simon 164
COPPEL Jérôme 163
DE GENDT Thomas 154
TAARAMÄE Rein 143
BOONEN Tom 139
DUARTE AREVALO Fabio Andres 119
EWAN Caleb 110
ZABEL Rick 105
SOUPE Geoffrey 100
SCHLECK Andy 99
VANENDERT Jelle 96
KENNAUGH Peter 93
CUMMINGS Stephen 85
COBO ACEBO Juan Jose 61
LE MEVEL Christophe 52
MARCZYNSKI Tomasz 45
KESSIAKOFF Fredrik 42
STEEGMANS Gert 35
BOBRIDGE Jack 27
SAGAN Juraj 15