Alphabet said:I reckon Evans is a better descender than Contador (though there isn't much difference there), and has been mentioned earlier, he's better on the cobbles and on hills.
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Alphabet said:I reckon Evans is a better descender than Contador (though there isn't much difference there), and has been mentioned earlier, he's better on the cobbles and on hills.
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The Hitch said:How do you know this?
auscyclefan94 said:Evans beat Contador when Evans lead out in the sprint in a headwind uphill finish. Contador coming off the Giro would have very minimal effect on the way he sprints in a hilly stage in the 1st week of the Tour.
The Hitch said:If fatigue and form have no.impact on uphill sprinting then why did Gilbert suck so.much this year? By your logic since form doesn't matter, how did.Phil go from winning agr by a mile to.failing to.make the podium?
auscyclefan94 said:The stage in 2010 tdf. I would guess that Evans would be better on the cobbles than Contador, but judging it outright on one stage would be unfair.
The Hitch said:If fatigue and form have no.impact on uphill sprinting then why did Gilbert suck so.much this year? By your logic since form doesn't matter, how did.Phil go from winning agr by a mile to.failing to.make the podium?
The Hitch said:Lets bare in mind that in the 2010 stage Andy schleck finished in the same group as Evans and then proceeded to cry that he should never have to ride over those things again.
We know that the rest of the peloton was delayed by the frank crash. We have no idea if Evans hejsdal and schleck were actually superior cobbles specialists than people who finished behind, like for example flecha.
The Hitch said:Lets bare in mind that in the 2010 stage Andy schleck finished in the same group as Evans and then proceeded to cry that he should never have to ride over those things again.
We know that the rest of the peloton was delayed by the frank crash. We have no idea if Evans hejsdal and schleck were actually superior cobbles specialists than people who finished behind, like for example flecha.
So maybe Andy is better than Contador on the cobbles as wellThe Hitch said:Lets bare in mind that in the 2010 stage Andy schleck finished in the same group as Evans and then proceeded to cry that he should never have to ride over those things again.
The Hitch said:Evans beat contador by a nose hair in the tdf sprint on that uphill stage in 2011. Contador was coming off the giro while Evans was in the form of his.life.
Also look.at the short climbs in short stage races where.Contador has excelled like mende where he won twice, and also flew away from sanchez and schleck as if they were sprinters in the tdf 2 years ago. And samu and schleck are 2 of the best hill riders in the world.
Contador is one of the best at hills, just that with his mountain and tt skills, he rarely focuses on it.
auscyclefan94 said:They certainly were not. That is simply incorrect. Watch the footage. The split at the front of the race was already moving away at that point.
Miburo said:
airstream said:no problem. Evans was not in top shape.![]()
Yeah, who's going to open this thread? I wouldn't mind seeing also biohazard in the mix.Zam_Olyas said:The next poll should be Who is the better rider Robo Basso 2006 or Cyborg Wiggins 2012.btw I think not evans in this poll.
Don't be late Pedro said:So maybe Andy is better than Contador on the cobbles as well![]()
Miburo said:
That only goes to show just how underrated Andy is...The Hitch said:Looking down the list he is also better than Vansummeren, Ballan Flecha, Boom, Hincapie, Breschel, Ogrady![]()
El Pistolero said:Judging Evans vs Contador on cobbles is irrelevant unless ASO decides to have a cobbled stage every year. Or they both show up in Roubaix.
Juding Evans vs Contador sprinting abilities on a flat piece of road is also irrelevant for the same reasons.
The only relevant areas to compare them are:
- Climbing: Contador is better
- Recuperation: Contador is better
- Consistency over a season: Contador is better
- Time trial: Contador is better
- Hilly one day races: Evans is better
- Uphill sprints: Meh, not enough to go by... It's very close anyway.
Dutchsmurf said:If Evans had realized he had a shot at winning classics 5 years earlier, this might have been close. But as it stands now, Contador is the better rider by a mile. Simply because the difference on the hills between them is small, but on mountains and GTs, Contador wins easily.
Comparing Evans to someone like Valverde might have been more fair to be honest.